My bad, wrong info was there, it is not the roof but rather the upper part of the mantlet/trunnions.
Why is this ragebait?, the Strf’s are beasts, yeah the “X vehicle is bad so just play something else” is a bad argument but RU doesnt really have much else to play than a different T80 or T72
Lol no, it seems you never tried to pen russian MBTs from the side with the bushmaster, or even better 40mm cannons. ERAS eat the rounds, need to spam the tank in order to destroy it. Doesn’t happen with NATO MBTs, they get pened like butter.
Are you expecting to one shot a tank with an autocannon? Do you have a brain? Every light autocannon based IFV (25mm/30mm/40mm) needs to spam to kill top tier tanks lol.
Also, good luck pening a T-90M from the roof.
I said T-72 and T-80 models. Not the T-90M.
Ok, this guy is a ragebaiter, do not respond to this thread anymore.
Just get good and grow a brain bro. BMPTs are fine right now. Just learn where to shoot them lmao. If your team allows them to flank then that’s your team and it’s the same as getting flanked by any IFV.
Ragebait → Leclercs, Arietes, Chally, Merkavas, Types, TKX.
Leclercs don’t have cardboard armor. Merkavas DEFINITELY don’t have cardboard armor. Arietes, Type 90s, the TKX, are all relatively light and speedy tanks and that’s by design choice. The Type 90s and the TKX are incredibly good (I argue they’re the best top tier tanks). The Ariete is like a (quite) worse version of them and that’s why it doesn’t even reach 12.7 (should lowkey be 12.0).
Earlier I said there’s very few tanks worse than the Russian top tier ones and the Challengers are most of them. They don’t even have anything better in real life. They could cap out at 12.3 and be fine.
This is ragebait
That is ragebait
That too is ragebait
Just get good my guy. If it’s ragebaiting you then that’s on you. Most of this argument is based on logic and objectivity and you’re trying to involve skill into it cause you suck at top tier tank battles.
Their winrates higher exactly at 12.7) And if you know about major nations, how can you not know that the winrate increases when you play a lineup, and the Soviet top tier is strong precisely because of the number of tanks “for slaughter”
ragebait. if you are bad with russia then you just suck at the game
The TKX and Type 90 tanks are so damn good.
Soviet 12.7 doesnt have more tanks than other trees. The reason majors usually perform worse is the amount of newbies, wallet warriors and idiots compared to minor nations.
Gen 3 tank vs Gen 4 ofcourse the TKX is very great.
If you do badly against Russia you just suck at the game.
or they could just remove turret baskets and add M829A3 if they’re too afraid of adding “next gen” MBTs, there would still be M829A4 to be added in the future anyway
LOL, Russia sucks is the funniest joke I heard today.
I think it’s much easier to add new tanks rather than new shells. If they added shells such as the M829A3 and alike, they’d have to be at like 13.3. Many nations don’t have anything nearly as potent, nor do they use them. It’s like putting Obj. 292’s 152mm on an Abrams at a 6 sec reload; it’d cause issues cause armor is already quite underpowered at top tier but it still just about prevents from point and clicking people.
From a post I read a month ago: “US players who ask for M829A3 should be forced to play the challenger.”
Not very related but lol.
One of the strongest MBTs in-game btw.
Sure, alongside Leopard 2A8, Challenger 3, etc etc.
SEPv2 isn’t the strongest by any means. Most people would pick up a Leopard/Strv or Type 90 over it anytime.
I think the Leopard 2A8 should be put off until we maybe get tanks such as the T-14 Armata, Type 100, K2, etc. Challenger 3 defo though but it’s what should be at 12.7 instead of the Challenger 2, which should be at 12.3. That’s just Gaijin sucking.
Give me one reason why the M1A2 isnt the strongest?
It has average to above average mobility. It has average to above average surviviability and it has the best firepower at top tier.
As it stands, I do not understand how or why most of the USs current 11.7+ MBTs are not higher in BR currently.
M1A1 to 12.0
M1A1 HC/Clickbait to 12.3+
All M1A2s to 12.3+
I suspect the M1A2 SepV3 is being saved specifically to be added alongside those tanks.
Would be the most sensible and realistic option, most of what’s modelled would have little to no effect on the horizontal drives; the turret floor, what the crew stands on, being integral to rotating the turret is beyond stupid.
BMPTs are fine right now. Just learn where to shoot them lmao.
Leclercs don’t have cardboard armor. Merkavas DEFINITELY don’t have cardboard armor.
Naaah this guy’s trolling us. Well done, almost got me
I’ll start by saying that the Abrams tanks are not trash or awfully bad or anything. They’ve good firepower and decent mobility and that’s really all that you need in top tier. They get the job done.
But why is the Abrams worse than other tanks like the Leopards/Strvs and the Type 90s/TKXs?
The Abrams is very tall and can get both seen & roofpenned very easily. Its hull is literal paper. It’ll get slammed by nearly everything from the front and you can be unlucky enough to get your entire turret disabled from a stray 30mm APDS or 2 going into your driver hatch. It’s pretty decent at being hull-down but not good enough like a T-90M, Merkava, or Strv 122 since as I said, you can roofpen it very easily and the gun is easy to shoot through.
And because of all this ineffective hull armor, it’s slightly more sluggish than said Type 90s, TKXs, Leopards etc. Its reload is also slower than the Type 90s and TKXs when you essentially take the same metrics and considerations you do with them as you do with Abrams tanks cause of its garbage armor. It’s bigger, slower, and has less total firepower, all whilst playing virtually the same in MBT on MBT battles.
Only thing really going for it is how quiet it is. But it’s so massive that it’s awfully hard to miss if you’re looking in its general direction.
The M1A2 SEPv3 should be added with tanks like the Challenger 3 and T-90M Arena-M. This is because as previously mentioned the M1A2 SEPv3 still uses the same 40 year old hull without any significant changes to (particularly internal) armor, especially on the front. It is incomparable to how a tank like the T-14 Armata is written to be.
I don’t see a T-14 Armata below 13.3, but I see a SEPv3 at 13.0.
You’re still replying bro if anybody’s been got it’s you. Just get good.
