To small air RB maps!

[niclascool]

To make this simple, i HATE the small air RB maps in BR 12-13.7. You get no time to climb or make any Flanking Maneuvers, My suggestion is to have helicopter PvE style maps for top tier air RB battles, giving the option to spawn at different airfields on the start of a match, making the metha of going left obsolete .

[RXDimA]

I have the same complaint, but for props. Border is too small for shallow climbing in US planes.

[RunaDacino]

Beyond simple map size (the wiki is unfortunately outdated - it still implies 64x64 for prop tier maps which is true for some, but objective and AF placement makes it all wasted space)…

Objectives and air field placement makes existing maps seem even smaller. Airfields are in-line with each other, pointing straight at each other along an orthogonal rather than diagonal line usually. Objectives are all concenrated in a tiny furball.

I feel most Air RB maps for prop tier at least could be made to feel significantly larger if the 1 big airfield was split into three, with the bases and ground troops spread out between those 3 airfields. Even if the size won’t increase as a consequence, splitting the 16v16 into 3x4v4 would make them feel much bigger and allow for more engaging gameplay.

Mozdok needs to have its BR limited to like 3.0 maximum. That map is hell to fly on. Ladoga and Korsun (Frontline) are similarly claustrophoic.

[Uncle_J_Wick]

@RXDimA

I have the same complaint, but for props. Border is too small for shallow climbing in US planes.

You might find this map discussion (thread link included) interesting:

@Uncle J Wick@live

To outline my understanding of a more challenging game play i use a map which was mentioned in a parallel thread.

That an 8 vs 8 for prop BRs on such a map:

(see thread)

…would give all plane classes (including non-fighters) a realistic chance to follow their intended roles is from my perspective clear.

Some pros and cons:

• Yes - guys on speed grind tours won’t like it just due to the sheer size, same as min fuel spammers as you needed fuel here.
• And yes, the map had some drawbacks - mainly caused by stupid spawn locations, but the map is large enough that even a Sterling or a Yer-2 have realistic chances to drop and rtb.
• But this depends on his skills to choose the right route and right strategy. So as today, the guy flying straight to a base will get killed, the guy able to “read” a game, able to spot openings and able to spot dots (not markers) can evade spotting if gaijin finally fixes the way too low contrail alt - see bug report.
• The 4 bases were non-respawning and the 2 airfields were “killable” - despite this happend almost never as you needed about 10-12 tons of TNT for each. A base required around 0.5 tons of TNT.
• As a fighter you had all options: Going for bombers, escorting own bombers, defendind own CAS planes or going for enemy CAS or like many US pilots - max loadout and killing pillboxes, tanks or bases - or just looking for dogfights with enemy fighters, But you needed a strategy and you knew that going low will get you killed very quick as you get swarmed and your airfield was too far away.

As a summary:

The map forced you to think about what you are doing and was a pleasure to fight on if you had some experience. The map got less exiting after the cut to 25 minutes, but is was one of my favorites.

If you add stuff like more challenging target for friends of CAS (like described here) like slowing or stopping enemy ai by killing bridges (we had this also on Korea) it would be perfect…at least from my pov.