Sorry, and thanks for correcting my misleaded failure.
I am a fan but also not a big fan of the sabre series so I don’t have an F-86A-5 of mine… (recently bought some of the F-86F-30 at the last discounts.)
So I can only imagine their difference indirectly :(
with experience which I got from fighting against them, and that screenshot which Alvis provided.
Maybe I mistook the info and concluded wrong.
And this sounds convincing :/ a lot.
I see Those meteors with clipped, non-round shaped wings (Mk.4 G.41G and Mk.8 G.41K) share the same 8.0BR but Mk.8 has stronger thrust with Derwent 8.
For meteors, It seems Gaijin don’t care about the thrust difference between them.
And back to CL-13 Mk.4 and F-86A/F.
We can consider F-86A-5 and CL-13 Mk.4(F-86E) the same plane. right?
same engine with the same thrust. similar agility caused by two different upgrades.
and compared to those earlier F-86s. F-86F has an advantage on the thrust side thanks to an upgraded new engine. (so we can’t consider F-86A and F-86F the same due to thrust differences)
Then, Gaijin decided to make the F-86A-5 and F-86F-25’s BR differently because of engine thrust.
in the meantime, they kept CL-13 Mk.4’s BR the same as F-86F-25 does because they don’t give a damn about engine thrust. (or they might just overrated all-flying tail)
Seems like quite another minor nation hating and double standards as always.
(We also can talk about CL-13 Mk.6 and F-86F-40 sharing the same BR because of the same two AIM-9B as an example while the thrust difference seems quite big)
In conclusion
Nearly every sabre and MiG-15 series is underrated by Gaijin, and it has a ridiculous buff.
Still, ‘on Sabre side only’ CL-13 Mk.4 got overrated a bit compared to its counterparts.
Because Gaijin loves to hate and punish minor nation players. maybe.
Right?
Lastly.
Sorry about the derailment caused by gripens. I was trying to state it just for another example of Gaijin’s double standard so I didn’t think It was going to cause derailment:'|
anyway. There’s no need to worry about it. I had a PM about that with him, so no need to discuss Gripen in the F-86 topic here again.
its because gaijin doesnt care about context or nuance when discussing plane’s stats in their metrics. They see the CL13 Mk4 doing better than the equivalent jet (F-86A-5) and decide its because the CL13 Mk4 is a better jet and thus deserves a higher BR, and not because the reality in which they are the same jet but italians are just better players on average than americans… (referring to the nations in game)
Shenyang F-5 also did not see a downtier from 9.3 despite literally being the 8.7 Lim-5P already at 8.7 just with 2 AIM-9Bs.
To be fair, the lower BRs are quite neglected in terms of new planes, weapons, objectives, features etc. I love Mig-15/17 but I can only do the same things on the same maps so many times before I get bored to death.
As a joke, can’t wait to see American having F-86A-5 at 7.7BR while Ouragan got nerfed into 8.0, and F2H at 6.7BR kicking 109K-4 and spitfire LF Mk.9’s ass XD
Indeed, we are missing an entire class of plane in game. F-94, F-106, CF-105, Su-15, Mig-25 etc, these would bring new life into cold war ait battles. Much more excited for rhem compared to F-22 or whatever
Does the community truly not care about this enough to do anything about it? Seems like gaijin will never bother fixing this because its now the new normal. People genuinely seem to think the 15bis is 8.0 worthy along with the F86F in game chat.
It seems nearly nobody gives fuck about Meteor, ouragan, Vampire, or Venom.
While there are much of US Mains crying about the ‘historical’ F-15E FM adjustment and stating it as a ‘soviet conspiracy’ :/
Maybe Gaijin thinks, “Are you homelessly poor? Cries about early jets because you don’t even have a penny for buying Rank 7 Prem??”
In the current meta with Gaijin’s new normal, Rank 5-6 only exist for blockade rank 7. What a shame.
As long as much of nations can access one of Sabre or MiG-15. They are never gonna be fix this compression shit.
The era of ‘Wdym, u have a sabre too. Stop crying with your junk and play sabre’ Meta will go forevermore.
This is actually true lmao )))))))) The amount of post about US bad Russian biased good on the forum is insane , while post about br decompression and other important issue are barely being made