maybe they never got them officially but there’s been wartime footage of them firing tracers, meaning the ground crews loaded them with tracers even if they weren’t supposed to (BTW: the footage I remember was from some Smithsonian TV show or something similar to that cant remember name)
This gun camera footage is the only footage in Project Gun-Val in 1953, but the red tracer is not in the footage.
All of the pilots who worked on the project Gun-val also testified to the need for tracers.
What the mechanics did at the time was to apply beeswax to the AP-I rounds to increase more smoke trails from the fired rounds.
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That footage showing the use of stealth belts also COUNTERED: F86 F2
I don’t think we need to argue over whether something should have tracers or not based on realism arguments when gaijin themselves are not consistent with realism arguments. This thread isn’t about the F-86F-2 specifically though.
agreed, those gun kills look nice though gotta admit
The problem is that if the smoke trail is properly modeled again, it will be an omega buff, not a nerf.
And the AP-I round where the smoke trail was existed in the game until before supersonics were implemented.
nice F-86D saber dog
Didn’t know D and K model was implemented in pre supersonics.
the f86a went supersonic whats you point (also the D and K aren’t designed to be supersonic fighters the a went supersonic in a dive by accident) in not gonna argue about this anymore
You don’t understand my point.
My point is that the game was pre-supersonic, i.e. before the F-100D/MiG-19PT/Javelin Mk.9 was implemented in the game.(also no A2A missiles)
BTW, The kill log literally says F-86F-2 lmfao
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LOL 8.7 A-4H???
A-4H was fine at 8.3 since when it comes because it is just A-4E with worse engine and worse loadouts.
It has the same engine as the A-4E premium and it’s much lighter.
It is literally part of the Project Gun-Val video I posted.
What you see in the video is not a tracer, just a beeswaxed round putting out many smoke trails.
Come back here if you read COMBAT SUITABILITY TEST OF F-86F-2 AIRCRAFT WITH T-160 GUNS.
Premium one has different engine from American one?
Didn’t even know that.
At least the premium if I don’t remember completely wrong.
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Which helps in straight line acceleration, but not in maneuverability.
F-86F-25’s lack of slats isn’t really an issue because it has an all flying tail which should increase agility at the high range of speeds and its engine ensures it is not difficult to stay within this speed bracket. The F-86A-5 has slats but no all flying tail. It ends up being that both have speed ranges they do better in but the F-86A-5 tends to get slow and cant regain energy while the F-86F-25’s accel advantage makes it far more competitive.
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Potentially yeah.
I think that’d matter more for simulator than air RB where it’s usually all or nothing for most players.
I’d have to consider max G loads and speed bleed.
Either way the initial testing indicates they could all be the same BR; which might change as time goes on.
yeah nah I’ve played this bracket a lot and played these jets specifically as well, the F25 is just better than the A5.
in my experience, the a is better due to the guns being more reliable and accurate along with more ammo but that’s just my opinion
??? F-25 has the exact same guns as A-5. You are thinking of F-86F-2. F-86F-2 is also just plainout strictly better than F-86A-5 anyway as it is also a F-86F-25 and that makes it better even if you think the guns are harder to use.