All heli thermals was nerfed.Source outdated.
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False…
Source is up to date…
Before the they had up to Gen.3+ which is 1920x1080p… now they are just Gen.3 which is 1200x800p
- The characteristics of helicopter thermal imaging sights have been updated. The characteristics of these thermal imagers have been brought to the level of ground vehicle thermal imagers, except for the 1st generation, which in terms of characteristics has been left equal to the 2nd generation. 1st generation: A-129 International (p), Tzefa D / E, AH-1F, AH-1S, AH-1S Kisarazu, AH-1W, AH-64A (GR), AH-64A Peten, AH-64A, Saraph, AH-64D, AH Mk.1, AHS, HKP9A (FC), Lynx AH.Mk.1, G-LYNX, SA.342M Gazelle, YAH-64; 2nd generation: A129CBT, Rooivalk Mk1F CSH, AH-64DJP, G-LYNX, Ka-52, Mi-8AMTSh-VN, Mi-28N, Mi-35M, Superhind, T129, EC-665 Tiger HAD, EC-665 Tiger HAP, EC-665 Tiger UHT, Z-9WA, Z-10, Z-11WA, Z-19, Z-19E, AH-129D, AH-1Z, AH-6M, AH-60, MH-60L, Mi-28NM, OH-58D, Tiger HAD Block 2.
BTW please tell me that when you went into Kh38 optical sight, you actually did press the button to activate thermal sight…
Because if it looks like this:
Instead of this:
then its not fault of “Ultra low quality” but rather you forgetting to actually activate thermal imager.
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I dont see any change to Kh38MT on that list, please find a changelog where the quality has been changed from the implementation of Kh38MT on SM3 to now in order to disprove that the quality of them is infact not generation 3 resolution.
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Did I said something about kh38?
While at it, look into the KH-38MT ))))
youre trying to prove that the site is outdated and therefore in the context of the conversation about Kh38MTs, what Kev posted is inadmissable.
Otherwise youre just arguing with Kev about the thermal generation of helicopters in this thread for no particular reason.
If Kh38MTs have been changed and they arent generation 3 like that site shows, since you said its outdated, i ask or urge you to find a changelog where gaijin have said that Kh38MT quality has been reduced and to what resolution/generation.
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Su-34 is def op for cas.
But honestly the issue isnt necessarily the plane but the fact that we have these tiny CoD maps and no proper counter in form of SAM for western nations + China. Su-34 isnt the only op cas plane imo.
Larger maps for top tier, more SAM systems (they exist), ACTUAL incentives to play anti air (rewards SUCK), also implement a time based bonus for SPAA players so there is an actual reason to use them as pre emptive countermeasure rather than only as a reaction to half the team getting back shotted.
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look at that!
Ok… massive skill issue of my part, i didn’t try the button since i play with the buttons bar closed and didn’t see there was actually an option to turn on thermals on the KH38, i take back what i said about no thermals.
I usually use the plane pod with better zoom since in ULQ that i play, trees don’t render when you are more than 8km, so the extra zoom helps a lot in these long range shots, just go fo spawn and spining positions, and it’s an easy 3 or 4 missiles launched in the first 15 seconds of being alive
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If you want to be objective, you should compare kh38mt zoom and thermal, with lightning 2 or 3 target pod. And not with the agm seeker which no one uses when there are great target pods.
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You want to compare? Good…
But why make an comparison which is not fair from the start… so we compare the KH-38MT with AGM-65G/D
KH-38MT:
Good TVD(Gen.3), good Zoom
AGM-65G/D:
Gen.1 TVD(trash) poor zoom…
Like sure, some planes have AGMs and T-Pod, but not all…
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What 12.7 grb plane has agm but no pod?
That has nothing to do with objectivity, its just you pushing the goalpost after failing every single time to reason anything. From ignoring the point of my arguments, to spinning narrative about points ive not even talked about, to then try and disprove things by saying “because helicopter thermals are outdated [false] posting thunderview that shows Su34 (related to Kh38 thermal sight) having gen 3 thermals is wrong” and are repeatedly shown to be wrong.
Ill entertain your “argument”; LITENING II and III are extra external pods that you have to equip and on their own dont do much, unlike the built in thermal sight with ~25x zoom of the 38MT. (I would like you to get a kill by looking at things really hard with only the LITENING pod.)
Additionally even with targetting pod such as litening 2 or 3 youre not going to get a tracking lock with mavericks past 11-12 kilometers and instead you will have to use point lock. (I do hope you know what point lock means)
While were at the objectivity of you talking about different AGMs, id genuinely like to see you come up with an argument about how other AGMs shot out with the help of the litening 2 or 3 at the same long distance as Kh38 would perform in any way similar to the missile that is Kh38.
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F-4F ICE for Example… or F-16AJ
I said 12.7 battle rating in ground rb, not in air rb.
P.S why you deleted those 3 letters “grb” from my quote?
F16 AJ dosent even get normal camera its just black and white
F16 AJ is 12.0 and F-4F ice is 11.7