The SU34 Is EXTREMELY OP In Ground RB

[llSolitairell-psn]

@pandorun

SU34 is perfectly balanced, why?

1. It doesnt have thermals

[Pangolin_Fan]

@PompousMagnus

Remove scouting reducing plane spawn cost.

Remove SP gains from capping the FIRST point of the game.

Make MM at top tier all mixed.

Problem solved.

That just causes more problems and solves none.

[ARK_BOI]

@pandorun

• Kh38 is very dead husky-hungry, it is very difficult to lock into someone that is standing near a dead tank
• Low clouds/Rain/Storm weather (which these times seems almost 2/3 of all matches) makes the SU34 nearly unusable, and forced into a very limited ATGM/bomb run

Happen to every IR AGM

@pandorun

SU34 is a brick,

Ever fly Tornado IDS or GR4 before to say it SU-34 is flying brick?

@pandorun

No alerts for Heat seaking missiles, so LAVS, Ozelot, Type 81 (and other SPAAs), helicopters, smokeless AIM9M carriers

And who else does? Apart from newly gen4.5 fighter?

[T4T]

I have great idea, how to forget about su34. Like it happened with su25sm3. We just need another aircraft, with 8 kh38mt.

[БЕИ]

@ZhengHe

A typical match US vs Russia, stupid people from forum will say “skill issue” and yeah show me your skill in this situation please. After 4 mins they had the first spawn heli with AGM, then followed with su 34 and the game end in under 10 mins.

4 minutes is generous, I have had heli comes up at 2 minute mark launching missiles from helipad to spawn. Some people still think CAS isn’t a problem, makes me sick to the stomach.

[T4T]

@БЕИ

Some people still think CAS isn’t a problem

Is it?

[かがり]

isnt the lock range of the AGM-65B 6KM?

also you say pantsir can be easily evaded (laughs at dying the moment i spawn in)

[かがり]

also wasnt there a method people used to make the SU-34 have thermal’s with the addition of putting 1 missile?

[T4T]

@かがり

pantsir can be easily evaded

Evaded? No. Outplayed? Yes Gnss bombs is your best friend agains S1. But im doing that with laser gbu or cannon.

[MotorolaCRO]

@ARK_BOI

Ever fly Tornado IDS or GR4 before to say it SU-34 is flying brick?

Now they get EFT so that’s a moot point.

@ARK_BOI

And who else does? Apart from newly gen4.5 fighter?

EFTs and Rafale, so that’s 40% of the countries in the game.

[ARK_BOI]

@MotorolaCRO

Now they get EFT so that’s a moot point.

yeah, if i say they also got SU-27SM so it also a moot point hah?

@MotorolaCRO

EFTs and Rafale, so that’s 40% of the countries in the game.

not an excuse

[MotorolaCRO]

@ARK_BOI

yeah, if i say they also got SU-27SM so it also a moot point hah?

27SM doesn’t carry the same amount (or even more) A2G ordnance than Su-34 though.

@ARK_BOI

not an excuse

It is an excuse as almost half the nations have it.

[ARK_BOI]

@MotorolaCRO

It is an excuse as almost half the nations have it.

heh it took almost half year for German to finally got some decent fighter jet to keep up with other nation but it a god damn excuse when Russia don’t get anything for one patch lol

“Deal with it then”

[AlvisWisla]

1- It doesn’t need thermals, KH-38s have thermals.
2- So are all IR missiles, that doesn’t change the fact all of them out-range all SPAA with no evidence that SPAA can CONSISTENTLY intercept AGM launched ordnance from high altitude against tanks.
3- Okay, you don’t spawn CAS that match to begin with…
4- So is the F-15E, this doesn’t change their lethality.
5- Then don’t take off when you hear your SPAA go off?
6- If you get within IR missile range at top BR you’re playing CAS wrong.

[MotorolaCRO]

You’re now just bad faith arguing so I’ll stop.

[Константинович7]

It’s like that in any post involving USSR. On top of that using the recent events in Ukraine as part of a discussion.

[Dontkev]

@pandorun

SU34 is perfectly balanced, why?

1. It doesnt have thermals
2. Kh38 is very dead husky-hungry, it is very difficult to lock into someone that is standing near a dead tank
3. Low clouds/Rain/Storm weather (which these times seems almost 2/3 of all matches) makes the SU34 nearly unusable, and forced into a very limited ATGM/bomb run
4. SU34 is a brick, if there is an enemy plane you will most of the time die while looking at targets after a few seconds (no thermals, longer time to find targets). It carries 2 R77 and 2 R73, but what is that worth if there is an Eurofighter in space launching AIM120B as soon as you spawn, or a F16 hugging the ground after launching it’s payload WITH THERMALS to find enemies?
5. If by some miracle you spawn early and scores some frags, the chances of dying on Airfield are extremely high if there is no other friendly plane up, afterall… high tier ground RB airports are basically helipads, absolutely no defense if someone goes to you while you are reloading/taking off.
6. No alerts for Heat seaking missiles, so LAVS, Ozelot, Type 81 (and other SPAAs), helicopters, smokeless AIM9M carriers can easily get an SU34 that is busy looking for targets with NO THERMALS… and specially after the launch when you are turning back to airfield, which happens when you are already quite close to the airfield

1: is not true…
2: not realy…
3: just like everyone else…
4: do you flow ever an Tornado?
5: same Issues for everyone else…
6: cool… you are writing about your first point again… but with more context this time… doesnt change the fact… KH-38MT has Thermal, if you dont know how to use this thermal your issue…

[ARK_BOI]

isn’t that, right?
you said 40 percent of nation have gen 4.5 and it became an excuse (and RU got new planes every patch along with US)
German endures it for six months straight with only F-4FICE and noone give af.

[MotorolaCRO]

@ARK_BOI

you said 40 percent of nation have gen 4.5 and it became an excuse

And how many nations had MAWs before the update ?
That’s the difference.

[Dontkev]

You mean the MAW on the EF which isnt even properly modeled as it should and gets because of this trigered by Flares?