Classic Jecka deviate from topic, knowing im right.
I am done arguing with you. I will point out bs and lies you spread, nothing more.
I valuate my time too much to argue with children.
By pointing out how you’re trying to avoid the topic by bringing up something that isn’t a part of it i.e a classic case of whataboutism? Or maybe your dubious use of “hypocrite” when you haven’t got an argument against something?
Sure, avoid me, it just makes this funnier ;)
I am not avoiding you, im just not going to argue with you anymore, because it’s pointless.
You can feel like you are on the high horse the entire day, i don’t care.
KH38 built-in thermals are worse than tank gen1 thermals, and has very low zoom, making it very bad at long range missile attacks… might be because i play in Ultra Low Quality, but the Thermals of the KH38 do NOT highlight targets, it’s all grey, haven’t tested it when playing on medium or high config.
And the built-in targeting pod of the SU34 has much better zoom, but no thermals at all.
I suggest giving SU34 a thermal pod, and buffing NATO AGMs so everyone can be happy :)
They wont be happy. Beeecause of pantsir. Beeecause Russia has ERA. Adats bad spaa. Fix clickbait turret ring. Give usa 800+ penetration bullet. But tiger uht havent turret. But tornado is flying brick. But brimstones should be fire and forget. Etc etc.
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As you can see, even at 11-10 kilometers the resolution is FAR better compared to Gen1 thermals. And the zoom is more than sufficient for you to be very well capable of differentiating between destroyed tanks and alive tanks.
Im 1 plane away from researching Su34 so i am unfortunately forced to use YT as evidence but even with that you are completely lying about the zoom being insufficient.
If you however want to have numerical evidence of the zoom, this should be enough.
completely untrue.
That is a YOU problem and YOUR settings problem, not the missile problem. Thermal sights still show tanks in white. You can look at any amount of videos that show the optics of Kh38MTs missile in warthunder and you will see that they all see enemy tanks in white. Barracuda camo netting and its thermal signature reduction effect has not been implemented in warthunder so you not seeing tanks as white on grey background is a problem only present for you.
Yes, but that is completely unrelated. You said:
which is just blatantly wrong because while the aircrafts built in targetting pod doesnt have thermal sight, the weapon system you will be bringing 99.999999999% of all time into the game has them built in. With good zoom, good thermals, ridiculous range and tracking capability, IOG that makes using smoke grenades not matter as the innertial guidance will just keep guiding the missile towards last position, extremely high speed and high amount of TNT filler making any hit a guaranteed kill unless you get gaijined by the spaghetti code.
Completely pointless and “buffing” in this game is tied to either developer “balancing” stats like lock on range (which almost never happens) or bug reports with publically available information.
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Lol, that dude in su34 flying at 5k+ altitude. One fox3 launch at him, and:
1- he dive instantly, or going for notch, and runing away to the airfield, for protection.
2- he ignore rwr, keep launching kh38, and get hit by aim120 or something similar, and game over.
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thats irrelevant to the discussion of Kh38MTs i was replying to.
I dont really understand why you think that him notching or not notching is relevant to the points above. Either youre trying to move goalposts or you just didnt understand a single word above.
Additionally if you even want to continue this incredible “discussion” you started, he didnt even have to released them from within 11km distance, as the Kh38MT is far more capable of being release outside of all NATO SPAA ranges.
The video wasnt about “look this is how you play” but rather to show that even at 11km range from which it is easy to evade missiles like VT1 (and hell ADATS cant even touch you) the thermal resolution and zoom are more than sufficient enough to get a clear picture of the enemy vehicles.
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More sources for the clear Thermal
All heli thermals was nerfed.Source outdated.
False…
Source is up to date…
Before the they had up to Gen.3+ which is 1920x1080p… now they are just Gen.3 which is 1200x800p
- The characteristics of helicopter thermal imaging sights have been updated. The characteristics of these thermal imagers have been brought to the level of ground vehicle thermal imagers, except for the 1st generation, which in terms of characteristics has been left equal to the 2nd generation. 1st generation: A-129 International (p), Tzefa D / E, AH-1F, AH-1S, AH-1S Kisarazu, AH-1W, AH-64A (GR), AH-64A Peten, AH-64A, Saraph, AH-64D, AH Mk.1, AHS, HKP9A (FC), Lynx AH.Mk.1, G-LYNX, SA.342M Gazelle, YAH-64; 2nd generation: A129CBT, Rooivalk Mk1F CSH, AH-64DJP, G-LYNX, Ka-52, Mi-8AMTSh-VN, Mi-28N, Mi-35M, Superhind, T129, EC-665 Tiger HAD, EC-665 Tiger HAP, EC-665 Tiger UHT, Z-9WA, Z-10, Z-11WA, Z-19, Z-19E, AH-129D, AH-1Z, AH-6M, AH-60, MH-60L, Mi-28NM, OH-58D, Tiger HAD Block 2.
BTW please tell me that when you went into Kh38 optical sight, you actually did press the button to activate thermal sight…
Because if it looks like this:
Instead of this:
then its not fault of “Ultra low quality” but rather you forgetting to actually activate thermal imager.
I dont see any change to Kh38MT on that list, please find a changelog where the quality has been changed from the implementation of Kh38MT on SM3 to now in order to disprove that the quality of them is infact not generation 3 resolution.
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Did I said something about kh38?
While at it, look into the KH-38MT ))))
youre trying to prove that the site is outdated and therefore in the context of the conversation about Kh38MTs, what Kev posted is inadmissable.
Otherwise youre just arguing with Kev about the thermal generation of helicopters in this thread for no particular reason.
If Kh38MTs have been changed and they arent generation 3 like that site shows, since you said its outdated, i ask or urge you to find a changelog where gaijin have said that Kh38MT quality has been reduced and to what resolution/generation.
Su-34 is def op for cas.
But honestly the issue isnt necessarily the plane but the fact that we have these tiny CoD maps and no proper counter in form of SAM for western nations + China. Su-34 isnt the only op cas plane imo.
Larger maps for top tier, more SAM systems (they exist), ACTUAL incentives to play anti air (rewards SUCK), also implement a time based bonus for SPAA players so there is an actual reason to use them as pre emptive countermeasure rather than only as a reaction to half the team getting back shotted.
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look at that!