this planes should not be 9.0, they will now be able to face meteors, we literally have 104 syndrome again, they should be moved back to 9.3 asap
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nobody even asked for it to be 9.0 btw
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100% agree.
There was no reason for these to move down in realistic.
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Why did this have to happen?😔
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Those planes Su-7B, Su-7BKL and Su-7BMK “questionable” battle rating placement as you said, I have a believe that it’s due the F-106 Delta Dart,
Being exclusively an striker airplane and at the best of odds a Boom and Zoom fighter, facing an aircraft with weapons that exceeds and surpass its speed limits is not the most of the fun gameplays I suppose every supersonic striker will have now.
Eventually when the F-106 Delta Dart has its battle rating increased, perhaps Su-7 and variations can return to battle rating 9.3, but honestly I wasn’t expecting it.
Efficiency, said smin xD
Can we use this as a chance to see what’s behind that?
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I can’t wait to face Su-7s in my Vampire.
These changes are just dumb since they aren’t even the worse 9.3 planes. The Q-5 early, Hunter F.58 or the J32 are all worse aircraft.
This feel like it was balance based on player stats, 9/10 su-7 i faces in battle are all zomber and usually just bomb the whole game or get chased by the other 9.3 supersonic or get missile’d and die without much of a fight.
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i rinsed 3 of those triangles in a single match in my su7 today
the su7 is in no way a puny crappy plane
This is true, especially the base Su-7B can hold its own in a fight. The Su-7 was after all designed as a fighter first and it shows, bomber capability was only tacked on later because it was more practical to convert the Su-7 to bombing duty than a lightweight MiG-21.
Superior energy generation from your 9800kgf engine and a decent ability to turn and punchy guns give you all the tools you need to succeed in air to air combat. Add on top of that the S-24 acting as an impromptu Anti-Air Rocket with airburst and you even have yourself a few free headon kills if you can find someone to commit to you.
I love S-24 so much that i now actually prefer the BKL to the Su-7B as it carries six of them at the cost of being slightly overweight. But being able to shove three 2xS-24 salvos at people is the greatest joy i have in this game, once you are proficient with the rockets you will even be able to lead deflection and rear aspect shots with them giving you even more kill potential.
Not to mention they can act as an impromptu flare to get any missile off your ass for good with just one Rocket if you align it right.
I can only encourage everyone to give this playstyle a try, it’s one of my favorite things to do in war thunder and i have dozens and dozens of clips getting kills with these.
As it stood before 9.3 was annoying to play because of the 60% (i counted) uptier rate to 10.3, but if you played it like i do you have four/six flares to use on all aspect carriers and other advanced missiles. More if you sacrifice one s-24 for a rocket pod. And it kind of worked as a fighter at that BR even though i can’t get my stats with it into an exceptional range, but that’s probably mostly because I have skill issues and toy with my rockets too much.
9.0, while i welcome the much better MM you get there, is probably not suitable for the plane purely based on its combat abilities. Now if only people actually used them we wouldn’t be here.
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Strange considering balancing is done by SL earning which the su 7 should be making a lot
Except it isn’t since 9.3 is basically hell br, most Su 7 get like 1 bomb run before they got chased by an F104 or most recently an F106 and blown out of the sky, not to mention that br is hell br with frequent uptier to the more popular 10.3 br. And since ur a fatter and heavier Mig 19 ur basically worthless as a fighter.
Im not saying that it moving down is good either, just that this plane just stuck in a limbo between being really good if moved down and hell on earth if moved up.
TLDR: 8.0-9.3 decompression when Gaijin
Su-7 is not worthless as a fighter. People just never even try to use it as one in the proper way because they only want to bomb, if you actually put some effort it has hands. Su-7 is a fighter by design, the B was only tacked on later as the plane was more suitable to it than other fighters in Soviet inventory.
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preach
Meanwhile some players and Gaijin believe that R2Y2 is worth 8.0, what a joke
I mean, they are still quite easy to kill unless they run away… They focus more on the base and most of the time they are still in full uptier BR 10.0… at 9.3 other attacker will took the speed advantage and get the base leaving the Su-7 nothing.
Three out of my last 26 games have been 10.0, that’s hardly most of the time. 9.0 is an incredibly balanced br as far as match BR distribution goes.