Unless the F5c got sent down to 10.3 I’d say the mig 21’s are probably the best 10.3 in the game currently.
11.3 is a strange br to pick other than the fact it has a very small selection of aircraft at that BR and but the best aircraft at this br is definitely the J7-E or the Jh-7A which are Chinese.
12.0 There is like 3 unique airframes at this br and one of them is a bomber. So yeah the Phantom is the best plane at the BR by basically being the Only plane at this BR and I’m not even sure if the American phantom is the best phantom at that BR.
12.3 Yes the best plane here is an American Aircraft but once again a br where the selection of planes is like five airframes and half of them are American airframes to start with. Edit: should mention the other aircraft are like strike aircraft so basically America is the only fighter airframe at the BR.
12.7 Not sure what you are arguing here? Just off the top of my head the sniper comes to mind as being the best. I guess this could probably be argued that the f15 is the best airframe at the br, but by god if those R27ER’s aren’t nuts and with that airframe in close quarters with r60ms thats pure evil.
The USSR has some pretty accurate Aircraft though and some extremely good ones as well.
For 10.3 you could argue it’s the F-8, but yes, thr Mig-21s as well as the J35XS are contenders for best. Personally I’d move all of them up with decompression.
11.3 I forgot about the JH-7, but the F-4E from what I’ve heard is considered one of the best.
The F-15A is by far the best 12.7 and it’s blatantly undertiered for being at worst a side grade to numerous 13.0 planes.
Who else has a good phantom at 12.0?
Absolutely. The MiG-21bis is overall really good for 11.0, and the Mig-23s are the best 11.7s. There’s also the Su7 at 9.0 that’s way too good.
Id tenatively actually say the best, or at least one of the best 12.0s at the moment is the Tornado F3/ADV. Whilst it cant win in a dogfight, its superior in all other respects to the F-4s
The f-8 at 10.3 lacks the Radar missiles which is honestly what really brings the 10.7 one together. The f15a is pretty good but I really like the r-27ers on a better dogfighting platform. The British have a phantom at 12.0 its more of side grade but once again my point being there isnt really anything but the phantom at 12.0 to begin with.
The JH-7 is insane at 11.3 as its a decent dogfighter and has irccm missiles, the j7-e is just the j7d on crack so both are a bit better than phantom at the br since dogfighting still exist and is common.
But my overall point is these BR’s feel cherry picked as most of them either the US isnt top of the food chain or it just happens to be the only airframes at the BR to begin with.
I’d say at 12.0 with dogfighting still being pretty prevalent having slightly worse BVR and SARH isnt as impactful as the Tornados being unable to dogfight. The difference being the F-4 can still absolutely put up a fight against the tornado in longer distance while the Tornado has no ability to engage a phantom once the merge hits.
Flare pods? Plus it’s just 27R/ER, no 27T/ETs or P/EPs.
Things that it should actually get is like, Kh-35… because that’d be funny.
But anyways, that’s why we need an Su-25TM in the TT, so it can get all this stuff at a higher br so Su-39 (since it’s a premium so gaijin will want it to be more effective anyways) can stay at a lower br.
They’re literally the same, different designation.
And those sources stated R-27 plural and named no exceptions to what it would carry.
Like it makes no sense to me how you think it can’t carry an ET, the R-77 rides on the same pylon as the R-73, they’re interchangeable. In fact, an R-27ER was spotted on the same pylon.
Do you need any more evidence? Like if I had an Su-39 irl and an R-27ET, then we could really try it! But I’m not a millionaire… so…
It can also carry KH-31P and KH-58E anti radiation missiles apparently.
Personally I would love to see this get added: MSP-410 “Omul” ECM Pods
While we are talking about the Su-39, why is it limited to 192 flares & chaff if I recall correctly?
Irl it’s 256, 128 on each side.
Yes, I know… I’m simply calling for a copy paste of Su-39 into the TT, maybe with a different camo, but with the weapons 39 lacks. Keeps Su-39 at a lower br ala AV-8B (N/A) while Su-25TM can come in the Russian equal to AV-8+.
And those sources stated R-27 plural and named no exceptions to what it would carry
Dunno what sources you’re talking about but the brochure is quite specific on what R-27s it can use, so unless you have something else like a brochure mentioning anything else, I’d say I have enough evidence.
It can also carry KH-31P and KH-58E anti radiation missiles apparently.
Yup, 2 Kh-31P or 2 Kh-58E/U. The former was available on Su-25T as well.
MSP-410 “Omul” ECM Pods
I would also like to see ECM pods be implemented, as just parts of the model or as functional equipment, although the latter will likely be a while before we see it happen. Su-25SM3 can also carry MSP-410.
Also, no, there is absolutely no reason to add a tech tree one with the “missing weapons” it should be added to the aircraft that those of us whom paid for should get what we paid for.
there is absolutely no reason to add a tech tree one
It’s hard for Su-39 to GET the missing equipment it lacks when the devs have no reason to give it them, or have flat out denied the chance of something being added.
Usually you and I agree on a lot, but here I kinda disagree.
Maybe could be a 12.3, but I think 12.0 is more accurate, for the semi crap MiG-29 radar, and all the other cons, including the fact you have to drop 16x vikhirs to carry 2x R-27s or drop your R-73s to carry R-77s means your limiting yourself even more in regards to offensive capabilities, for a higher chance to score a kill.
