The su-39 situation is crazy

and you have just shown that you have no clue about the su39

that radar pod is way better than the 9.13 radar

its not, its doing really well in its intended role that is a2g

and its also doing really well in a2a
dont belive me?

check my stats in it for rb

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It also only gets either 4x 9M, 2x AIM-120 or 2x 9M + 1x AIM-120 without sacrificing it’s cannons.

For platforms like the Sea harrier and Su-39 the R-77s are better than AIM-120s though.

You aren’t able to use the range advantage of the AIM-120 in these planes anyway, so the manouvrability advantage of the R-77 is much more useful for these slower platforms.

What do you mean? Kopyo-25 is clearly a full sized N019 and not a shrunken down N010.

I don’t see how this yappage is still going tbf, just give Su-39 R-27R1 and it’s two missing R-73s

Then add Su-25TM in the TT w/ R-27ER/77, Khod, etc.

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which would be stupid if anything its a nerf bc it would go up in br as a result

That’s also fair, I think it could maybe be given the two extra R-73s without being moved up.

But I still want my Su-25TM in the TT… Doesn’t have to get R-77s but I’d be happy with R-27R1s.

People must fly right into you really often without a thought between their ears.

At least playing sim, where you cannot see out of the cockpit and your flight handling is worse than pretty much everything you see, it’s a terrible 11.7 in game.

Also, if it isn’t the 9.13 radar what is it? Because the Kopyo literally acts as bad as a 9.13 radar.

I only agree with the first two parts.

Last part makes 0 sense. Give the plane that had these weapons its weapons? Or give it to the same exact plane, in the TT, that is just named differently.

The most satisfying result would be BR based weapon presets.

R-27-1? 11.7 R-27ER? 12.0 R-77? 12.3 just as an example.

N019:

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N025 Kopyo-25:

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As I said above, it’s a miniaturized version of Zhuk N010.

Last part makes 0 sense. Give the plane that had these weapons its weapons? Or give it to the same exact plane, in the TT, that is just named differently.

While yes, I can see how it’d be unideal for this solution, as I’ve also said before, this is the only way for us to get a Su-25TM with some equipment, especially Khod. Which the devs have already denied adding to Su-39.

I’d be fine if it became 12.0 and had them.

Everyone seems to keep skipping over the fact that you would lose 14x AGMs, for 2x R-27s but it’s all dependent on how it’s setup, as it stand now R-73s are limited to certain pylons, and not allowed on all the pylons it could be equipped to.

Also, the A-10C is 11.7 right now with 4x Aim-9M and a MAW.
Granted, I think the Su-39 may still be running a bit hot, but it’s got its own benefits with the IRCM.

Isn’t the Su-25T already practically the same thing?

And it depends on where they want to mount them. If it takes up an already limited A2G slot for ASB, then I don’t want it.

Finally, I read some very wise words! I had already said that they should first consider the vehicle with all its historical armament and characteristics, and only then add it to their BR, NOT the other way around.

and face fox-3’s with the r-27r

no thanks

Isn’t the Su-25T already practically the same thing?

Wdym? If you’re asking if Su-25T should get the additional R-73s, then no, loading chart only mentions 2 on stations 9-3.

And it depends on where they want to mount them.

Well I’m just guessing mainly but going off the 25T’s loading chart, R-73s are on 9-3 and likely 10-2, and the 4 R-27R1s are placed within the 3 inner most stations.

Wouldn’t that mean it can mount more R-27s than merely 4? 3 pylons x2 = 6

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Seems like they can be mounted pretty much everywhere except the inner most, I don’t have the photo anymore, but there was one where it was mounted in place of the Vikhirs. Which is where I assume they would add them.

The brochure says 4 tops, and going off of pictures of it on the ground or at expos is practically worthless since gaijin doesn’t take that as a source due to it being unreliable and not going with actual documentation.

also i could see that you cant mount r27r’s on two pylons next to each other

due to the size of the frontal fins

The E100 didn’t have much in terms of documentation lol. And it was still added in all its glory.

whataboutism

completly irrelevant

Dude why are you being that way.

It was a funny jab. Whataboutism your lame excuse because I made a comparison. Your literally acting like a donkey.

True, hmmm I think logically they’d be fitted on stations 10-2 and 8-4 then.

Meaning excluding R-77s, you could have a loadout of 4 R-27R1s and 4 R-73s saying it were to get the additional 2.