Oh dont get me wrong they are good at 11.3 air but the Kurnas 2000 at 12.3 air needs to be moved down it had its AIM-7Fs removed a while ago for some reason but still sits at 12.3 air.
yeah sorry jet that can’t even go mach 0.8-0.9 is underBRed yeah should be moved to 13.7
you have arguably the two strongest IRCCM missiles in game at 11.3
want to know what the US has with equivalent missiles? the A-10. which is 11.7. France? mirage, which is 12.0.
not to mention youre not even supposed to dofight since its a strike aircraft. If anything, id argue the SU-39 should be uptiered to 11.7 or 12.0 for its R73s
4xr73s and 2x r27r would be a good loadout for su-39/25tm for 12.0 imo.
12.3 with 2x 27er or 4x r27r
12.7 with 4x 27er
13.0 with rvv-ae/r-77
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Su-25TM for the research tree with everything on it, including Khod or whatever the thermal imager is called
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If only they actually showed where the hell the weaponry would be mounted…
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I don’t want it to be decent with 27Rs, that’s the whole point :)
its perfect. problem is. ucnt rly kinda use it proper way in game. sim mode not rewarding u for good perfomance. air rb. kinda u can mace it worck but .russia is so big tree .u dye before grind it. its kinda aircraft u must have .enjoing to have .u want to play it. but game not gives eny option to play it ,ground rb. hmm…its works. but kinda u have so much weaponary.ground rb maces u to rush for kils. i playnd it on sim VR. its kinda gives u true attaker vibes D. even in sim u have to worck for kils. engage disengage. fight survive.destroy ground targets and deal enemy players. in vr. its creates truly realistik vibes. but for grind long term its suks. its just u want have it.its looks sexy. D
It’s missing more than half its equipment. Flare pods, jammer pods, R-27s (all kinds), R-77s, etc.
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Well, technically in total offensive capability it would. Be worse yes.
Because you:
Have to carry the radar pod
And have to sacrifice x16 Vikhirs for 2x R-27s (be it IR or Radar guided).
Just like if you want the R-77s, you have to drop the R-73s.
It also lacks an HMD to make its R-73s truest effective.
I did not know it can carry R-27s on the R-77 pylon… interesting
anyway why cant we just keep the premium one and add new varients? its never too bad to provide a new option for players.
im quite interested in the a2a su39, its even better if i can play with it free, like a techtree or event one.
I don’t believe the Su-39 was ever upgraded. And if it was, it would pretty much be the Su-25SM3.
The TT variant is the Su-25T. Both would receive upgrades, but this would be limited. Su-39 is more advanced and was fitted with things like the Kopyo radar, and R-77s, where as the Su-25T was more meant to be a ground striker, the Su-39 was meant to be a multirole. Even being able to carry anti ship missiles
And it’s devalued in its current state as it’s missing things it should’ve had. It’s not like it’s a cheap premium either.
The Su-39 is also supposed to be a cooler running and “stealthier” aircraft over the Su-25T, as it utilizes better engine cooling tech, and advanced blades on its engines.
Additionally, it’s missing its Khod thermal pod.
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There’s vikhrs launch zone in SU’s.
It is quite small, and it makes it pain to use time to time, especially when trying to manouver on same time.
My opinion is that strike aircraft that have reasonable offensive capabilities should not be “good” per say in air. I dont think anything without flares should see all aspect missiles nor jets that have a very limited flare count facing r73s.
If a single jet is ruining a br bracket it should be moved up, no matter if it will struggle in uptiers. Case in point, mig 21 bis, mig 23m, mig 23mld, mig 25. I have the mig 25 and mig 21bis sau and soon to have a mig 23m and i can say for all of these that they can be moved up without much issue. I dont think a better f-104s.ASA should sit 0.7 bellow the actual f-104 (mig25).
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Nah it doesn’t carry t variant of r27
The SU-39 is fine as is. As others have already stated, it’s an Strike Aircraft and not a fighter. It performs it’s role well and doesn’t need any new AAM. Vikhirs are fun to use in Air RB to hunt or head-on other planes. Fly low to avoid radar missles and use your counter measures to dodge IR missles.
It’s fun to use
Unless the F5c got sent down to 10.3 I’d say the mig 21’s are probably the best 10.3 in the game currently.
11.3 is a strange br to pick other than the fact it has a very small selection of aircraft at that BR and but the best aircraft at this br is definitely the J7-E or the Jh-7A which are Chinese.
12.0 There is like 3 unique airframes at this br and one of them is a bomber. So yeah the Phantom is the best plane at the BR by basically being the Only plane at this BR and I’m not even sure if the American phantom is the best phantom at that BR.
12.3 Yes the best plane here is an American Aircraft but once again a br where the selection of planes is like five airframes and half of them are American airframes to start with. Edit: should mention the other aircraft are like strike aircraft so basically America is the only fighter airframe at the BR.
12.7 Not sure what you are arguing here? Just off the top of my head the sniper comes to mind as being the best. I guess this could probably be argued that the f15 is the best airframe at the br, but by god if those R27ER’s aren’t nuts and with that airframe in close quarters with r60ms thats pure evil.
The USSR has some pretty accurate Aircraft though and some extremely good ones as well.
For 10.3 you could argue it’s the F-8, but yes, thr Mig-21s as well as the J35XS are contenders for best. Personally I’d move all of them up with decompression.
11.3 I forgot about the JH-7, but the F-4E from what I’ve heard is considered one of the best.
The F-15A is by far the best 12.7 and it’s blatantly undertiered for being at worst a side grade to numerous 13.0 planes.
Who else has a good phantom at 12.0?
Absolutely. The MiG-21bis is overall really good for 11.0, and the Mig-23s are the best 11.7s. There’s also the Su7 at 9.0 that’s way too good.
Id tenatively actually say the best, or at least one of the best 12.0s at the moment is the Tornado F3/ADV. Whilst it cant win in a dogfight, its superior in all other respects to the F-4s