Before we start the discussion, if you believe a puppy can hatch from an egg, then there’s no need for us to talk further. If you think you have the basic knowledge and logic of a military enthusiast, let’s have a discussion.
In the game, the radar used on the J‑15T is identical to that of the J‑10C — this is completely unrealistic.First, according to basic physical laws, a radar with a diameter of 900 mm cannot fit into a space only 700 mm in diameter, which is the case for the J‑10 series.The J‑15T has a nose diameter of around 900 mm. Based on the most basic military and technical logic, its radar performance must be superior to that of the J‑10C under the same technological level.This is similar to how the Rafale cannot mount a larger and better radar due to its overly small nose.
However, I know someone will definitely say:“We have no idea what the radar of the J‑15T is called, so we’ll just leave it as it is.”
But my response (and the response of Chinese players) is: NO!
Gaijin also doesn’t know the name of the AESA radar used on the Typhoon fighter, yet they still reasonably came up with a name and assumed its performance.Why can’t this be done for China’s J‑15T?
Why can’t Gaijin follow the naming convention of the KLJ‑10A, create a hypothetical “KLJ‑15” designation, and give it improved performance based on the KLJ‑10A?For example: better detection accuracy, changing the radar scan angle from 140 degrees to 180 degrees, and so on.
Gaijin has invented a fictional RWR model for the J-15T (which is functionally identical to the KJ8602A anyway).I believe the J-15T’s survivability is already very poor, so it deserves a better RWR with a wider detection angle.
Yet when it comes to the radar, they simply copied and pasted the one from another aircraft.This clearly shows extreme laziness and perfunctory development.
In contrast, the Su-30SM2 received all its features in just three days,while the J-15T remains unfinished to this day.
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Can you imagine the scene where, in the future, the J‑16, J‑20, and J‑35 all use the same radar and RWR as the J‑10C, and are identified as J‑10s on radar? It’s absolutely ridiculous.
That’s exactly what’s happening with the J‑15T — it’s recognized as a J‑10 by radar.The developers at Gaijin have been extremely lazy and perfunctory.
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they do though?
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but yeah i mean its pretty obvious that the j10c and j15t arent the same radar, the xray model doesnt look alike
but lets be real not much is gonna change unless theres a source about the j15t radar
Alright, that was my mistake. On Chinese websites, I only knew it by the name ECRS.
This game’s top tier has long had nothing to do with reality.When dealing with Russian vehicles, Gaijin talks about game balance.But when it comes to Chinese vehicles, they hide behind “real‑world data”.
no? they talk about about game balance and real world data with every nation, your complaints are not unique to you, even russian mains make similar complaints
Gaijin invented a fictional RWR model called K/RKZ2200 for the J-15T, which is functionally identical to the KJ8602A anyway.Therefore, there is no problem for them to create another fictional radar named KLJ-15 and give it proper upgrades suitable for a 14.7 battle rating.
its already aesa, theres not that much extra apart from maybe search angles
I really can’t imagine what Russian players could complain about when it comes to top-tier jets.Complaining about the Pantsir-SM-SV? The Su-30SM2? The BMPT or the BVM?Or that they can’t get an easy, quick win?
I’m talking about the scan angle. After all, search range has no practical meaning in the game.And the J-15T in the game is so underperforming that it can’t compare to the Su-30SM2 in any aspect.
No matter what changes are made, it is completely unrealistic and absurd that the J-15T uses the J-10C’s radar and is identified as a J-10C on radar.
i was generalizing, not just about top tier jets
i mean that part alone isnt that absurd, most su27s show up as mig29s
its not like its alone in that
This is a photo of China’s three-sided phased array radar. Expanding the search angle is completely normal and logically realistic. Unless Gaijin believes the radar on the latest Flanker fighter is inferior to those on public display.
However, it is logically impossible in reality to fit the radar used on the J‑15T into the J‑10C fighter jet. The internal volume of the J‑10C is far too small; a space with a 700 mm diameter cannot accommodate a radar with a 900 mm diameter.
unfortunately when you are forced to make assumptions due to a lack of facts, its best to assume the bare minimum
but that isnt what has happened is it? gaijin put the radar of the j10c into the much bigger j15t, not the other way around
Then I can only say that Gaijin is judging China’s technological capabilities with the worst possible intentions.Not a single military analyst around the world would believe that the PLAAF would equip its latest Flanker fighter with a radar from ten years ago.Only Gaijin goes out of its way to rate Chinese equipment at the worst possible performance level.
yeah obviously, but gaijin isnt a military analyst and also we dont know what the PLAAF has actually put in it, so the minimum possible assumption is made
gaijin basically went “we dont know what radar is in this plane but this radar from a similar plane exists and we do know about that so we can assume that the new radar is at least on par with that one”
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Is it known what radar is in the J-11BG? I feel like that would’ve been an easier add than this J-15 until they decided on J-16 or Su-35 lol