Pls, its Puma, Not PUMA, its just Gaijin which had Caps lock active wheb writing the name
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The issue with KF-41 and SPIKE Puma below 10.7, is you pretty much cement worse vehicles remaining 10.0 that people argue are OP.
10.7 is a good BR for them, especially since there are still a number of under-BR’d light vehicles [Looking at M24 that evaded going up for so long].
And SPIKE missiles, along with all other F&F IR missiles, can be further improved in guidance over time.
Both Puma and KF41 are among the fastest IFVs in the game, obviously both superior to Namer 30 in protection and speed.
So yeah, there’s no reason to reduce the BRs of effective vehicles when fixing their bugs and inaccuracies is more effective.
You were saying? also it doesnt matter if you call it PUMA, Puma, pUmA or anything else, the point still stands
The only redeeming factor it had was that it was survivable and difficult to kill with a bad gun, now it lost the survivability and still has a bad gun.
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The issue with KF-41 and SPIKE Puma below 10.7, is you pretty much cement worse vehicles remaining 10.0 that people argue are OP.
this doesnt mean anything.
10.7 is a good BR for them, especially since there are still a number of under-BR’d light vehicles
it really isnt, 10.7 for essentially a 9.3 vehicle with FnF missiles is not a good BR, especially since there literally 3 to 4 other examples of vehicles that have spikes be at a lower BR than 10.7
Both Puma and KF41 are among the fastest IFVs in the game, obviously both superior to Namer 30 in protection and speed.
Except they arent, they are fast sure, but arent faster than an average MBT like abrams or T80s. The generally fastest IFVs ingame are those with wheels, like Radkampfwagen 90, Type 16, and similar.
And if you had spent a second of reading what i wrote instead of going off of the title alone youd notice that ive listed several reasons why the Namer is superior to a PUMA.
*Also also, since youve made me realize something with the “what other people call OP” thingy, PUMA should not be at the same BR as russian massively undertiered BMP2M with its 8 tandem beam riding missiles and a very quick firing APFSDS cannon nor at the same BR as a goddamn 2S38 with its extremely overperforming gun that can kill MBTs from front, has now essentially unlimited rounds in its first stage magazine and can engage planes and helicopters that are up to ~5km range away from the battlefield with HE-VT that has whole 6 meters of proximity distance
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it literally doesnt matter what you think, stop being a child
9.3? lol Begleit is 9.3, where it’s perfectly balanced, and is significantly worse in armor and gun than Puma.
There is only 1 example of SPIKE missiles being on a BMP-2M/Puma speed or faster platform with similar protection against HEAT munitions as PUMA and Namer 30… KF-41.
Namer 30 is significantly slower, thus worse. Namer 30 would have to be moved to 10.0 to make room for KF-41 and Puma with SPIKEs, which means BMP-2M and M3A3 would have to be moved to 9.7 since those are worse than Namer 30.
No tech tree should have OP vehicles after all.
Maybe if you read my posts instead of making assumptions everyone on the forum doesn’t read, you wouldn’t have made this post to begin with.
Oh, and 2S38 would remain 10.0 if a SPIKE Puma was made 10.3, cause there’d be no room for balance.
Someone could come in and assume your ultimate goal is to make sure 2S38 remains 10.0 and BMP-2M drops to 9.7 in order for them to be balanced with KF-41 and SPIKE Puma in mind… with you bringing up 2S38; I ain’t gonna assume that, just telling you what’s possible.
And bringing up SPAA capabilities for IFVs is silly since they’re not and should never be balanced based on that, otherwise 2S38 drops to 9.7 from its SPAA capabilities and hopefully no one here wants that.
wow… just wow…
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I’m convinced you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about
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no likes is crazy
imagine relying on the validation of others…
crazy world
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I mean it makes sense because
Yet multiple people agreed about what i think
It is pretty much a worse a puma with spikes.
I have noticed it’s much more fragile. I have been waiting for it to receive it’s spikes.
congrats… there are more people like you lol
tbh id play it over the puma
The freccia is 10.3
You do you, but i much rather be able to hull down, as you can easily kill the gunner and commander by hitting on the turret.
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KF41 is 10.7 with a much worse chassis than the PUMA
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