Idk man ,you tell me. So what im getting from here is Phantom are le bad and weak so you gotta base bombing with it , this is im assuming from what you just said.Jeez , i wish phantom got something to make up for their bad FM. Idk , maybe radar , AAM or something.
The thread literally said Fighter jets. Why bro gotta pick like a single F-4F early like it the single jet in the game ?
Because this pretext is exactly the same that people use to TK me when I’m on a F-4F Early because “muh Phantom is a fighter and shouldn’t be ‘stealing’ bases from bombers”.
So I just wanted to bring nuance to the topic by pointing out that not all “Fighters” are the same nor should be put in the same bag.
Id trade the AIM-7D on F-4C for AIM-9J in a heartbeat lol
Nobody here asked for you to!
So you bringing your own personal beaf with someone you don’t even remember the name into this conversation as if it relevant ? Idk man , maybe you need to rethink that
It’s relevant because F-4F is suppossedly a fighter and even on this thread people have said that Phantoms shouldn’t bomb either because it’s “stealing from bombers”.
So yes, nuance is to be brought up- and you seem way more agitated about seeing this than I am for doing it.
It’s not like I’ve played the Phantom ever since I finally got the Eurofighter anyway, and I won’t be ever playing it again, so this matter does not affect me anymore, stop trying to pretend that I am having “personal beef with whatever”.
I think the base respawn times would at least make it fun for both these bombing fighters, stock aircraft and the strike fighters.
A year or two ago there was a bug where a base would nearly immediately respawn after being destroyed and this worked really well, until it was fixed after a few months or weeks.
They also increased the intended base respawn time from 2 minutes to 5, if I recall correctly, sadly.
I also think there should be more bases. Possibly 6, specially since most matches are still 16vs16s even when most players on that match claim that they have selected the option to join smaller matches.
Since people are asking for solutions about the bomber issue, this is what just came to my mind:
6 bases instead of 4; 2 of which, the closest ones to the battlefield (thus requiring less flight time and allowing slower aircraft to arrive earlier) would be “reserved” for dedicated bombers by giving them special reward multipliers: lower for fighters, and higher for dedicated bombers.
That way, fighters are discouraged from attacking these bases, ensuring that they would be accessible to the bombers; and if they still decide to engage these bases despite the lower multipliers, then they would still be leaving the other bases for the bombers.
Of course, this is merely a brainstorming idea that has come to my mind within 1 minute, so it would need fleshing out, but at least it’s something.
I also believe ground targets (pillboxes, tanks…) should have higher reward multipliers- again, maybe higher for dedicated ground attack/strike aircraft/bomber planes.
However, I also think we must be careful. Bombers must have a place in the game, but I don’t think anyone wants ARB to become a Bomber PVE mode. It’s already annoying when 10 out of 16 players are bombers that are otherwise useless, leading to the team being obliterated by enemy fighters…
Have not seen any of the F4 being mentioned in this thread. Only the fighter air supremacy fighter being brought up and again , the cherry picking
All of that before I even came in, which is what I replied to with:
And the response:
So- yes:
1- F-4s were mentioned far before I even joined the thread.
2- After I discussed the F-4 matter, someone replied to me that “the issue is that I am stealing bases from bombers”.
So I really don’t get why you have been out since yesterday to tell me how I am “cherry picking and bringing up non-issues out of personal beefs”. What have you got against me?
Everything , you ignore the fact that Phantom have more than just bomb in general to grind , there are more than just base bombing to grind the tech tree. Literally no one , not a single one on this forum could or can force any of you to stop basebombing. What we interested in is the consequences of such action when bringing it up along with other type of Aircraft. In a nutshell people who saying F4 stealing all the bases from jet that actually need the damn thing to grind is right , especially one that listed in the top of the thread and to an extend. The effect of jet fighter heavily focus on base bombing also negatively affect the game and how gaijin balance the game. You yourself only see it as “Le cringe , le not allow other people to play how they want” but in reality it is more than just that. You can only cling to the F4 like they have nothing to redeem themself beside acting as a makeshift bomber and it offer nothing more than just a bomb load
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ARB at the moment is a TDM mode with some PvE targets sprinkled in, just to allow for some more RP. This should be changed by allowing bases to have an impact on the match and not just ticket wise.
For example, if a base isn’t destroyed in a set amount of time, game will spawn AA at a certain position on the map which will target enemy planes in the area, thus making that general area hostile.
No one but Gaijin to blame.
ARB really needs a hard limit of how many ground pounders a team has, at least for the initial takeoff.
New trend? The rocket base damage bug fix was applied months ago…
Yet certain F-4’s can still do it, something I only learned in the past few days.