good luck playing with anything that doesn’t have FnF missiles in general, lol.
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Which had by far the longest range for quite some time?
Now only 1 nations heli can hover inplace and be immune, and its also the heli with the best atgm
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POV: russian planes be like
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I don’t think FnF would’ve saved you in this instance, no matter the helicopter and because it is AHEAD and radar proxy it means that you can’t even hug the ground. Most maps are not even ready for this type of weaponry, helipads need serious rework.
Yeah, that OP as hell thing needs to be nerfed again.
It’s so ridiculous, it can commander hatch pretty much everything, annihilate planes, and do a myriad of things.
It’s the best “jack of all trades” tank in the game.
I find it funny people whine about the 2s38 when the 341 is a lower br, but more effective 2s38.
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idk too much about heli ATGMs, but can’t they be launched like Kh-38ML? (artillery attack or smth like that).
attica in particular needs to be nuked from the rotation, games always end in both the worst spawn trapping and camping ive ever seen
the fact it uses the same cannons as the Ostwind while using unhistorically better bullets (APHE belts) makes it even more unfair.
btw ZSU-37-2 is just good if u use it right, and it’s worse than any other SPAA, the only thing that makes it good is the fact it has a radar and high penetration, the mobility sucks and the stabilization is not the greatest.
It’s not just Attica, but yeah most helipads cannot even survive this new Pantsir as they are extremely exposed and open to SPAA fire. The rear helipads might start seeing more use now but when this new Pantsir can intercept everything thrown at it, I don’t see how.
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what if Gaijin nerfs it’s missiles to limit it to 25km?
You don’t need to hover with a FnF heli
The Pantsir needs LoS to kill helis, so peeking and lobbing still works
The only thing that changed is that the team with a Pantsir has protection against A2G spam
JAGMs and the Chinese FnF ATGMs may not be as deadly as LMURs, but spamming non-LMURs is still extremely effective
even with the OG pantsir is was difficult if there was more than 1 up.
Sure you might not outright die, but all your weapons will get intercepted because they have the features to do so.
Gaijin really needs to work on their balancing
It’s not even good at intercepting planes…
But it can intercept 20+ Glide bombs and not break a sweat. It can be used as a tank destroyer because well 30mms haven’t been nerfed and it gets missiles with 300mm pen.
If you have a one sided umbrella on your team your team is going to stay nice and dry while the other team gets hosed in piss.
Something I also noticed, looks like radar lock can still track even when terrain its blocking the line of sight, ofc proxy fuse will still work. Time 5:19 of the video.
Sadly they refuse to do ahistorical changes to balance the offending weapons/vehicles
- They could have nerfed the original Pantsir to get it more in line with the other SPAA at the time
- They could have nerfed the Kh-38MT
- They could have avoided the BR squish of CAS
- They could have decided against adding a bunch of guided glide bombs and rocket propelled bombs
- They could have chosen to just not add FnF missiles to helis
But alas, here we are in the eternal CAS v SPAA arms race that has been making ground battles incredibly unbalanced
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BVVD thinks adding HARMS will break the game…Brother in Christ adding HARMS against this system is not going to make a difference.
Such a dumb addition and it even retains an ammo crate. Every CAS aircraft Rafale, Typhoon and Gripen could all attack it at once and it would likely still survive!
i wouldnt even mind if every nations spaa was strong enough that its the entire CAS vs SPAA (like 8.3) but its one particular nation.
It just leads to situations where youre cooked if you dont have that nation on your side. Like with the irist’s introduction
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its fine, its just that when russia gets one good SPAA we complain about the powercreep but when the rest gets one thats better than any previous SPAA we dont speak of power creep. You still need to know how to use it unlike the rest which are just 2 buttons and the missiles do the rest for you. And you cant really complain how noone else has something similar to it when noone built SPAA systems like this aside from russia.
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