Both of them are basically Phalanx systems mounted on trucks, the ADAMS comes with missiles in addition to the Phalanx turret
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such as u saying Ace crew gives u 6.9secs reload in a Leopard?
u can get a ~6.8secs reload with expert crew.
says the german main that never touched a single russian tank in his life, u didn’t even play them in RB, just KV-7 in arcade as highest BR russian vehicle.
SAP-HE warhead + proper lofting mechanic, that’s why it’s so good.
it will hit the roof of a tank and overpressure it 100% of the time, which the AGM-179 can’t cuz their lofting isn’t modelled.
Yes this is real thing .
Speaking of explosives, that reminded me of how Tow-2B missiles missing the second heat charge because its apparently
Isreal as well. At least Japan gets a type 81. Isreal still has the Mahbet and the Chapperal.
no FnF, Hellfires are laser-beam guided iirc.
btw Hellfires SUCK.
- way higher BR
- 30mm cannon with APDS, in a f*cking helicopter. it’s basically a flying BTR-80A.
- LMURs are way deadlier, and actually FnF, AND they have lofting, which Hellfires (or even JAGMs) don’t have.
- better FM
- LDIRCM
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True but at least the spyder is better than the type 03.
The Skyshield seems to be another case of needing a separate radar vehicle, its mounted on a vehicle chassis, but theres no visible radar.
The mobile CIWS would work, but its on a very big and immobile platform thats meant to be stationary…
Now the ADAMS system is something thatd be super promising
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Also true. The type 03 absolute dogwater…
why would a missile that flies over it’s target have a second heat charge? doesn’t it explode entirely instead of 1 charge and then the other charge?
ERA on the roof and just more damage overall through the roof.
Also it doesn’t use Heat technically but EFP charges which punch harder than Heat
True, but luckily we already have multi-vehicle SPAA
I mean, it’s still better to have those sub-optimal vehicles than to have no CIWS at all
As long as helis are basically immune to SPAAs any kind of vehicle that can destroy loads of bombs and missiles is going to be extremely helpful
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i mean, i know nothing about explosives, but wouldn’t the second charge explode too when the first one explodes? and if they’re some kind of “look-down tandem”, shouldn’t it be one over the other one so the first one destroyes the ERA and the second one goes through the armor?
It’s not exploding but sending the charge down and then fully explodes. Currently Gaijin models it as exploding and sending heat fragments down which is wrong.
Not necessarily as the first charge can increase the chances of setting off the other ERA nearby. Basically its not literally used to set the ERA off but adding the second charge just increases the chances of penetration, doing more damage, and hitting a spot with no ERA. Also EFP charges are less affected by ERA compared to heat.
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well i have seen the non-existant damage of the TOW-2B in WT, so i wouldn’t mind making it a bit more useful.
Take it in test drive, 4 Tow-2B can’t kill a t-72 but one Tow-2A can. Unfortunately we can’t bug report it because Gaijin thinks its a game mechanic so nothing we can do.
Spyder getting Derby ER was very nice from gaijin, but still
Israel, Japan and Italy dont have saclos spaa, literally no counter against LDIRCM helicopters, and a big gap between manpad and multivehicle spaa (no anti air to go along with the merkava 3 and such).
These 3 could easily get one with their domestic or subtrees. (for example, HVSD/ADAMS, greek TOR-M1, malasyan Jernas (Rapier), etc (in case of italy/hungary they do not have one, so they could add a proper subtree for them))
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In a way, yes, because we have demonstrated that JAGM, PARS, and Spike are underperforming, with Spike being the most egregious example of an underperforming flight model. LMUR and only LMUR gets to enjoy a top attack trajectory. Gaijin could’ve easily and retroactively changed the flight models of these missiles with the sources we provided them with, but they chose not to.