The new visible line-up feature exposes a fundamental flaw in GRB matchmaking

[Hudler]

SAV spam is not really a MM fault.

It’s fun and cool vehicle, of course people will spam it.

Maybe it just should be a TT vehicle, but gaijin has too much profits from sells of these rare vehicles.

[Rikers_Beard]

Suzukisan

[SilentTracker]

@Beeschurger

he claims that his team had zero 10.3 vehicles while enemy did, putting his team at disadvantage. which, if true, is reasonable thing to get angry at.

It seems to be happening a lot, or maybe it’s just that we are noticing. Here is another guy I replied to and confirmed that his team had nothing above the lowest possible BR, for the entire match.
Comment:

War Thunder "Leviathans" - Changelog

I have one question, is it normal that in battle my team doesn’t have a single vehicle higher than 9.3, absolutely everything is at 9.3, while the battle BR is 10.3, and the opponents have top vehicles, both 10.3 and 10.0 and 9.7, what the hell is this?

Replay: Gaijin Entertainment - Single Sign On

Nothing Above 9.3 spawned on his team, but the opposing side started with 4x 10.3’s, spawned multiple 10.3’s, and also had numerous other 10.0’s and 9.7’s.

My comment to the his post from above:

War Thunder "Leviathans" - Changelog

WELL, so I watched through your replay, and stopped about every minute or so, and did NOT see anyone spawn into anything higher than a 9.3 BR vehicle on your team. HOWEVER, there were at least 4 players on your team who left after one death, so I suppose it is possible that they had higher BR tanks (up to 10.3) in their lineups but just didn’t spawn in them first, and just left before spawning anything in higher than 9.3 BR. I did see that all 4 of the max BR players on the opposing team spaw…

@Bruce_R1

The match-maker rule is “up to 4” top tiers on either side and the game is good to launch. Can be 4-4, 4-0 or anything in between. The tradeoff to waiting for more than 4 top tier players on each side is wait time.

Please take a look at the info I posted above 😉 I believe the reality is much, much worse than just “oh sometimes you might not have 4x of the top BR’s”. The match/replay I linked above is absolutely unacceptable. The matchmaker could have shuffled the players to at least make it “somewhat” balanced. And honestly, it makes it look like it is intentional coding to make it this unbalanced. If it was actually random, there would have been at LEAST one tank above 9.3 BR.

[Bruce_R1]

@SilentTracker

maybe it’s just that we are noticing.

This is what it is. As OP said, the mouseover changes in recent updates just make it easier to detect than before.

Keep in mind we are talking a matchmaking system that at peak times is launching something like 10 new battles per second worldwide. Because you’re put in 4 queues each time, any of the match launches around you can destabilize “your” sort by pulling out people the matchmaker “thought” it had in your pool. But in the same second a bunch of new people show up and one of the minimum criteria (1-8 high tiers, etc.) is met and you’re launched, and the other three queues you were in the start refilling their hand to replace you and all those launched with you.

Could it be better? Sure.

[Sweedish_Gunner]

One 9.3 vs four 9.3’s…yikes.

[Sweedish_Gunner]

I had been noticing it before but without seeing people’s line-ups I had no way of confirming, as they might have only 9.3 BR tanks but they have 10.3 CAS etc. Now that you can see line-ups it’s easy to confirm.