The Mirage 4000 is unfit for BR 13.0: Radar and Fox-1 obsolete against the current meta

just got mirage 4000 and i agree its honestly horrible , not a single aam kill just remove it form the game

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agreed with what you have said , and honestly its not even that fast , its so annoying the radar aams suck the radar is subpar , no hmd , even hornets get you like its nothing its honestly such an embarrasing jet the matras dont even work that well at br 13 due to armaams.

The logical solution is to decompress high-top tier. Moving it down compresses the BR and causes more problems.

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Meanwhile the SU-30MKK gets 6 Fox-3 missiles and 2 Fox-2 missiles with IRCCM at 13.3, which is 0.3 above the Mirage 4000.

There needs to be:

  1. Decompression for top tier air
  2. Maybe even a hard cut between Fox-3 and non-fox-3 planes.
  3. Your propopal for an upgraded-envisioned M4K

It is absolutely ridiculous. With the way the current gamemode is made it is almost impossible to play the mirage 4000, every time I bring it out I need to lock in hard and sweat to get a good game out of it.

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I don’t agree fully. I think early Fox-3 slingers can be 13.0 with Fox 1 slingers.

Like F-4 ice and the sea harrier.

The 13.3 handheld flankers need to move up 10000%

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The sea harrier cant even break Mach 1, giving its fox-3s much more limited range.
It is also much rarer, the abount of flankers I see slinging Fox3s in my M4K its nerve wrecking since that fucking plane released.

The SU-30MKK is a jet from 2000 at 13.3, the Mirage 4000 had its first flight in 1979 at 13.0.
That is 20 years difference. This is pure laziness from Gaijin, they don’t wanna bother decompressing top tier as to not hurt the feelings of the crybabies who give money from premiums.

They strategically placed it at 13.3, just as they placed the BMPT at 10.3 initially and it is still bullshit at 11.3.

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What people don’t realize is a hard limit will lead to flankers or F-14IRAFs clubbing everything.

I think they have to mesh somewhat to keep proper balance, but in a much more decompressed state (13.0 can be split into 3 BRs, while 13.3 and 13.7 can both be split into atleast 4 separate BRs.

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F-4 ice should be 13.3 and most 13.3 should be 13.7 and so on.

AV8B+ is ok at 13.0, but the Sea harrier should be 12.7 even with fox3 lol, that thing is trash

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:( I know, its my favorite. Just Buff the Harriers gaijin they need it.

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Stick to reasonable suggestions

mercy to the evil is cruelty to the innocent

Mirage at 12.7 isnt doing any better. Playing f16AJ, Kfirs, any other F16 that isnt fox 3 is the same pain.

Ive had great deal of fun playing F/A-18C early in the past month or so, and Ive ended up with better KD than on MKK.

It can be done.

The f18s are great. Good radar, paywalled-P sparrows

All other 12.7s in the game are just not it… even with cracked FMs the fox 2 F16s sit bottom.
F15s radar is just a random event/ RNG
Mirage might as well not have a radar
Mig 29 is probably 2nd place here as at least it isnt just bullied/ on def all game

Kfir doesnt even get a radar, I included it as its one of the saddest jets around, could be great but alas. KfirC10 though is polar opposite and is probably the most fun jet in WT around TT.

Maybe when Gaijin finally decides they have enough gold plated swimming pools filled with ambrosia and supermodels from selling Su-30 packs and adds 15.0 in half a year, even though 16.0 minimum is required ASAP. maybe then 12.0+ will be slightly less god awful.

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