The Mikoyan-Gurevich project 1.44

let’s recall:
F-4 fought older MiG-17/MiG-19 most of the time. (Vietnam)
F-14 // F-15 // F-16 : fought older stuff most of the time, like MiG-21 MiG-23 and MiG-25 (Irak)

but yeah in results: USA does better than Russia.


for the thread author:
MiG-1.44 is no stealth figther at best as good as Su-27SM, too big for use on most airbases.
have same weapons than Su-27’s MiG-29’s (R-73 // R-77)
is fast, but only in it’s AL-41F Theorical variant.

the only thing it would match out straight head-to-head ability are F-15C’s and early F-15E’s

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half the Libyan Air Force thrown at 4 Tomcats

yo its the guy from ace combat 5

Minus the fact that although this aircraft radar return is the size of a microwave, the F-22s is the size of a marble…
And external stores ain’t really helpful for radar return either lol
(And the F-22 would also have better weapons for the time period lmao, as the Aim9M-8 or Aim-9X Block I as well as the Aim-120C-3/5 was much better than the R-73M and R-77/R-27ER that It would have been equipped with.)

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Yeah, Russia is still gearing towards dogfights, for some reason. I don’t feel like the external stores were particularly a bad thing, only for the stealth aspect; but it’s better for what it’s trying to be, and that’s a “5th gen multirole aircraft”

I know I said I was gonna get hate for it, but I honestly didn’t expect most to just be disrespectful and not enjoy the piece of equipment for what it is.

I’m referring to an ongoing conflict/invasion. I’m trying not to directly say what it is cause mods don’t like it being talked about.

Simply because it’s at best 4+gen multirole “intended” big aircraft.
And i said intended because it never was armed and never recieved AL-41F engines, while the aircraft itself never got armed/serviced.

I mean it, comparing this to 5th gen fighters is wrong on any plausible basis.

Wanting a modern Russian vehicle added is an unpopular opinion sadly.

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In the way it is proposed, yes.

Outside of that, if Gaijin implements a MiG 1.44 which never was armed, even with mockups, then Gaijin would make a rule change, and i would require to add the Nord 1500 Griffon II with a pair of Magic-1 and a R530 (IR or Radar) as it was planned to be the opponent of Mirage 3 at the time. Adding a new aircraft at the likes of 10.3 BR but clearly going to dominates the skies.

And you’ll then say it is obviously too good,… (Stato-reactor + reactor = 100kn of thrust in 1957, for a whole aircraft of 6,7 tons empty)

It’s only power plant was the the Saturn AL-41F, I don’t know what you thought it had, but that’s what it was outfitted with.

It flew

It was only not weapon it’s like the uhh…

YaK project 141

Remember when the Tiger 2 10.5 was removed cause it was a paper tank? This is no different from that the yak-141 should have never came too this is pure double standard BS.

Yeah that should have never been added too.

The difference is that the Yak-141 actually existed and flew, while the Tiger II 105 was a drawing that is physically impossible.

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Flew without it’s weapons yes? So there for the Tiger II 10.5 existed just without the gun.

The Yak 141 could actually mount the weapons it has, but the Tiger is physically impossible to make.

The Tiger II 105 has a paper turret, but the Yak 141 actually flew and existed, just without some weaponry.

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No where in documentation was it said it couldn’t be done. Only was rejected cause of practicality. You would have needed another loader in an already tight environment making it extremely miserable and slow to fire. Still able to be done just not practical.

Wrong, we have pictures of Yak-141 with Mock ups, as Mirage 4000.

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The only prototype ever made used the MiG-31 D-30-F-6M engines, and never saw the AL-41F.

So don’t talk about AL-41F as they never were installed on MiG 1.44

No,… KT 10,5cm never was built once.

It was a paper project, while both gun and Tank existed on their own sides.

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“L’unique MiG-1.44 produit est propulsé par deux réacteurs Soloviev D-30F6, les mêmes que ceux montés sur le MiG-31 Foxhound. À terme, le MiG-1.44 aurait dû être dotés de deux Saturn-Lyulka AL-41F à pétales de tuyères orientables” - that’s what my source says in french

And Google translated of that text:
“The only MiG-1.44 produced is powered by two Soloviev D-30F6 engines, the same as those fitted to the MiG-31 Foxhound. Ultimately, the MiG-1.44 should have been equipped with two Saturn-Lyulka AL-41F with adjustable nozzle petals”

Therefore it is unsure what engine the prototype really got - which should define which engine you’ll got in game

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I would like to see how R2Y2 series, Ho 229, HoRi (design was fake, gun existed) were more real.

It’s better off simply not adding any of aircrafts like that for another few years, especially with SPAA’s not keeping up for the CAS capabilities that will only expand.