No where in documentation was it said it couldn’t be done. Only was rejected cause of practicality. You would have needed another loader in an already tight environment making it extremely miserable and slow to fire. Still able to be done just not practical.
Wrong, we have pictures of Yak-141 with Mock ups, as Mirage 4000.
Spoiler
The only prototype ever made used the MiG-31 D-30-F-6M engines, and never saw the AL-41F.
So don’t talk about AL-41F as they never were installed on MiG 1.44
No,… KT 10,5cm never was built once.
It was a paper project, while both gun and Tank existed on their own sides.
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“L’unique MiG-1.44 produit est propulsé par deux réacteurs Soloviev D-30F6, les mêmes que ceux montés sur le MiG-31 Foxhound. À terme, le MiG-1.44 aurait dû être dotés de deux Saturn-Lyulka AL-41F à pétales de tuyères orientables” - that’s what my source says in french
And Google translated of that text:
“The only MiG-1.44 produced is powered by two Soloviev D-30F6 engines, the same as those fitted to the MiG-31 Foxhound. Ultimately, the MiG-1.44 should have been equipped with two Saturn-Lyulka AL-41F with adjustable nozzle petals”
Therefore it is unsure what engine the prototype really got - which should define which engine you’ll got in game
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I would like to see how R2Y2 series, Ho 229, HoRi (design was fake, gun existed) were more real.
It’s better off simply not adding any of aircrafts like that for another few years, especially with SPAA’s not keeping up for the CAS capabilities that will only expand.
got a prototype before the end of the war, 1 engine caught fire and nearly killed the program at that moment
Also several unfinished “pre-production” variants were captured by the USA.
Spoiler
R2Y2 V1 was planned and intended to be built with 2 Ne-330 engines, using the R2Y1 frame.
i do recognize that either R2Y2 V2 and V3 are completely fictionnals
also those were introduced to Japane Tree at a time the game had nothing else than Kikka and Ki-200 to add for Japan.
Ho-Ri , or Ho-Ri III (for 3rd prototype) was built in September 1944, revamping the hull of Chi-Ri Tank
Japan asked for 5 tanks to be designed as production, they were 50% complete by the end of the war.
So in other words worse cases then YAK-141 that predated YAK-141
With HoRi in game being fictional.
in what?
Ho-229 was armed in it’s V3 variants US found out, as well on further unfinished prototype.
R2Y2 not existed as such but as said - Japan in game needed some aircraft and they used most probable designs out of this. (V2 and V3 were based on what the american have made with F2H-2 and F–86/F-80 in case those aircraft would have been continued for Post-War Japan.)
and Ho-Ri is not fake at all, as the Prototype got through testing by the end of the war.
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Were designs that werent even close to a finish yet people will only bitch about one, with exception being Ho 229, but I dont care, none does with YAK-141 being only possible continuation for the YAK family of aircraft.
Ho-229 finished
Ho-Ri finished
the only you’re right about is R2Y2, which is still far than a menace at 8.0 with no airspawn today.
i have currently no problem with Yak-141.
i have about MiG 1.44 as it never was armed, never been serviced with AL-41F (but D-30-F-6 instead), and program being cancelled kinda early because of the design being Massive and too big for russian military.
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Not even close to in game version.
“design being Massive and too big for russian military.”
this has nothing to do with game, especially in a game where bombers can choose to start on same field as fighters at same time.
and if we go into 5th gen aircraft this will have to come due to options being little to none
hum,… hum,…
it’s no 5th gen,… and 5th gen are not going to come for at least 2 years (in my PoV), because of how unbalanced it would currently be.
and they can align the more recent Su-75 Checkmate, which is a true 5th gen in comparison
Most consider it being 5th gen, you can be a hater or not, your choice.
It will still come considering being only continuation and introduction into 5th gen for MiG’s family.
how speaking truthfully about it makes me a hater? bro you’re escalating this quickly,…
it have no real Stealth (as Rafale a 4++ gen), it does have non angled flat areas, and let’s not even talk about the “silencer” in the engines,…
and let’s not talk about the current software/radar part,… the MiG 1.44 wasn’t even ready on that part
on being a 5th gen - it only have Super maneuvrability, potential Supercruise (surely limited if D-30-F-6M engines are used as in prototype), and internal bay (even if i don’t understand how an internal bay alone can make the aircraft a 5th gen, as so many people here thinks it is)
still lacks:
stealth as said before
Multirole never was demonstrated, as we do not have the full avionic suite.
Yet most still consider it’s 5th gen
go read requirements of both 4th and 5th gens,… you’ll see MiG 1.44 is more a 4th than 5th,…
Not even paper it’s a whish list tank
They basically wanted to Mount the 105 on the tiger and it should have a range Finder but there are no actual plans on how it actually would look like
point is, it never was built,… and been hidden from new players because of that once being replaced by new stuff.
I just think there is a huge difference from paper vehicles
Mockup vehicles
Vehicles which were completet and tested just missed a few things
And actuall whish list tanks which not even have a napkin drawing which is the tiger 2 105
I also think there should be different Standards for ground and air
Paper tanks which have proper documents should be fine for Ground but absolutely not for air given its hard to guess performance in air battles
We don’t need more UFOs like the xp50 or the Japanese Paper Planes
Has unrealistic the Tiger 105 is balance wise it still works
Basically a German is2
i don’t think we should even have prototypes in game(many every nations apart maybe Israelii’s), aswell as unfinished boats(lots in Russian Navy)