The MI28NM problem

Long story short. The Mi-28Nm isn’t a problem. There you go. They can close the thread now.

You have what it takes to be a WT dev

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Well it’s true. The Mi-28Nm’s Ldircm is the worst, yes it has a broken model, so do the other helis tho.

The Z-10 is by far the strongest, and the Apache is a middle ground between thee previously mentioned helis.

LDIRCM should be fixed for all those 3 nations (and the new AH-64E coming).

Not only in the realistic aspect (like IIR missiles being inmune or the area of protection). A helicopter with magical properties shouldnt make players to have 2 spaa in ther lineup (one for helis another for planes), and damn Israel doesnt even have a SACLOS spaa, what is the solution? stop playing the TT?

The helicopter dircm issue its more significant in Top Tier Ground Sim, when the soviets/chinese spam helicopters and planes, you cant J out and spawn another spaa when having just 3 lives. 8x8 damn maybe worst with only 1 live

No, but beeing aware of what your tech tree is lacking and playing around it.

Most OP gun? Mi
Most OP F&F m.? Mi
Most OP command guided m.? Mi
Should I continue or no?

I’m not sure if you play clan wars but over 30 games, I saw 2 apaches and 0 Z-10s, 90% Mi-28NM and they shread ground

I’d be glad to debate about which is best

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When I get killed playing merkava I spawn SPAA, but its the feeling of being impotent because Gaijin just add thing without being realistic, so I cant do anything with the SPYDER except play like an iron dome until ran out of missiles, meanwhile the Mi28NM flies high without fear because of that aspect.

By the time one of my teamates die with their CLAWS/Irist-T and decide to spawn saclos spaa, the mi28nm already killed all our ground team

I dont have any issues playing with the Tiger UHT (no LDICRM), so why people have to ask for magic shields when helicopters are actually playable and maybe better than planes?

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Yea, i mean everybody knows it’s shit, why you even play it ?

Yea, but you still have more chance to kill the Mi28 than the Apache or the Chinese one.

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Yeah I could see why in sim it’s a problem.

Tbf though, the players, have made helicopters largely bad to play unless you play like the starter German heli or the AH-1G in all its super man like invincibility.

I actually hate trying to play the Mi-24D now. They took away its ability to use CCIP/CCRP for rockets, additionally, it’s model is still so bad, a single .50 cal can make you have to return to land, or make you perish in general.

Mi-24D for an example is from 1971
The Gepard, which is of a lower br, is from 1976
Not a large gap, but the tech difference especially in game is insane, because your pretty much dead as soon as a Gepard locks you due to its accuracy.

All those “Gepard” likes demolish the low tier helis, unless they’re on your team.

Then mid tier is fraught with manpads, of which ircms on mi-24s don’t seem to work at all, nor does flaring…
Therefore only past 10.7 do helis get somewhat decent but most of the time spaa out ranges you…

Like the G-Lynx is easily one of the best helis due to speed, size, and weapon load out…

But to wrap up, they kinda killed helo gameplay thanks to listening to whining players.

Because it shouldnt be like that, and its not only the SPYDER, but the CLAWS, Irist and other new top tier spaa.

Did you ever upload that video?

No, it’s on my Twitch replays, i can post it here if you want, but it would be the entire session we had.
I basically use twitch to record because i don’t have the space on my computer lol.

I also play the Tzefa (AH-1 with tows) and gepards and such its not much of a problem if you play at 2.5-3km of them and moving left and right while guiding the missile, and missiles like FIM-92 cant get you if you are far enough. The only issue is if you play rush with rockets.

Go for it. Debate as you like.

You know why you saw more Mi-28s?
More people play Russian helis over the other nations, especially since China is a minor nation in WT.

Best gun? Debatable. Apache has HEDP which is good, HE + AP.
The mi-28 doesnt get a consistent APHE ground belt, if it did I would agree. But you get APDS for pen, or APDS, APHE, HE, HE for a ground belt.

The LMUR is better damage wise, it’ll but often beyond 5 miles it won’t lock targets.
I’m not sure how the Apache’s weapons are you’d have to ask the gent that did the testing with us.
But 16 > 8. That means 16 targets hit vs 8. You’re likely to kill with one hit of the JAGM.
Now if you said 1:1 then yes the Mi-28 would take the cake.

Yes the Vikhirs are the best command guided atgm.

No I don’t play “clan battles” never seem to find a match when I try with my squadron.

This doesn’t even make sense. Fim-92s have a lock range of 3.11 miles or 5 km. Clearly who ever has fired them at you doesnt know how to use them right.

Sure. Not a problem

It will be deleted soon automaticaly probably.

Well sometimes I flare like crazy and it works, but im sure Mi-24 has a thermal reduction mod and longer atgm range.

My mic sounds like crap on discord XD it’s so much better on Xbox.