The MI28NM problem

if we assume 93° they will only start overlapping 50m away from the helicopter

but the inverse square law is a thing

and at 92° they will overlap 75m away from the helicopter

at 91° they will overlap 150m away from the helicopter

and it haveing coverage at 50m and beyond is what matters, as to safely divert a missile with proximity fuse you need to engage it fairly far away

Do we know at what distance the DIRCM engages on these helicopters? At least in the game files?

iirc around 500m to 1km

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that is under the assumption that it can even gimbal that far

my guys this is basic geometry

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how is it supposed to fire a laser throgh the opaque housing

oh and there seem to be different models irl

this one for example

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sure but we dont have that ingame sooo

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that image makes it hard to tell if it can gimble that far or not

but think of it like this, what design constraints would prevent them from allowing the system to gimble far enough to cover direct front

because there isnt any good reasons for them to not be capable of doing so

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plus for all i know, it could turn out to be a CM dispenser

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this is it here

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as we can see, the max depression from the normal appears to be 90 degrees

SS from

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turns out this is a normal DIRCM. not a laser based one

oh and its dutch

that shows it can angle past 90 degrees? with potentially somewhat reduced effectiveness

look at the axis of rotation and the edge of the housing

some of the lens might be blocked by part of the laser should still be visible well past 90 degrees

no the CIRCM is the laser one

But yeah, all in all, the only thing that’s needed is for the system to rotate 90° and then the eye to provide 1 more degree for it to be see at 150m frontally which is well within engagement range for these systems. Seems logical enough with the information we have that it has overlapping bubble front and back.

yes i meant this


is a DIRCM

while this

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is an LDIRCM

even if true, still wont protect against IRIS-T since it has HoJ capabilities so

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To get the bubble down, how does it work? Does the entire sphere inside rotate to make the block moving +/- 90° face downward-upward? Cause if there’s no rotation of that type, the coverage would be worse at the bottom and up despite providing full frontal/backward protection.

same with like all modern IIR missiles

we all know that LDIRCM is overpreforming in game

the issue is that due to how strong SLM is gaijin had to add it at this level to make helicopters usable

there is not exactly a sphere inside.
think of it as a tank turret with seperate horizontal and vertical drives
just as in tanks, the gun cannot depress into the physical body of the tank

the issue with this is that, contrary to even my understanding a few moments ago, the laser is not emitted from the turrets
it is merely directed. the emitters are actually deeper inside the fuselage as it isnt possible to generate such level of intense lasers in such a small aperture like area

there is another system by northrop grumman on other AH-64Es which employs a different design

this might have more than 90degrees of elevation, but this is called the LAIRCM
while the CIRCM of the current Apache E is not so capable in traverse