The MI28NM problem

Check my last post. The little block on which the eye itself is mounted rotating 180°(front to back) is all that’s needed to provide overlapping bubble coverage in frontal and rear direction. The only hole left on the coverage would be perfectly below, and perfectly above which sure seems a hell of a lot more logicale than leaving two giant deadzone in the coverage of the system.

which isnt enough for gaijin to model it as a full sphere even if we assume that it can gimbal up to 95° without being blocked

AH-64 APACHE (McDONNELL DOUGLAS)

17ft 2in is 5.23m

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and the 30m is an underestimation because in the wing span the LDIRCM wasnt included and i was quite optimistic with assuming it can gimbal up to 95°

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yeah 90 seems to be the limit and even then its slightly clipping but i can chalk that up to modelling inaccuracy
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So yeah, full overlapping coverage front and back as expected.

thing is, these systems are designed to protect against insurgent ambush SAM attacks. not from frontal and clearly visible ones. that job is for the pilots.

no

he says that it cant gimbal further than 90° of its standart position

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uhh… i said 90 is the max…
which means 2 disconnected hemispheres but yes full coverage in their gimball limits

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90° rotating from the standard position literally provide direct view on a frontal threat as long as you take some distance from the helicopter. I even gave you screenshot proving that where you can clearly see the sensors from the front.

direct view frontally but the spheres do not converge. hence there is a deadzone as wide as the wingspan of the Apache/Z-10

do you know what 90° are?

no matter how you puld it the coverage will not overlap

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those lines are parallel to each other both 90° to the centerline (in the case of the apache the wingspan)
so please tell me when they will intercect

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I doubt the model is accurate

as there is no reason for them to not extend it to have 92 or 93 degree glmble and have full coverage

Thank you I know what 90° is. The base on which the eye is mounted rotates 90°, then the eye itself provide a few more ° to catch the frontal threat from a distance.

To put it in other words, the base is your head turning 90°, and the eye are your eyes doing the rest. You only need a few degrees of additional of vision for the system to provide full overlapping coverage with enough distance.

irl there is a slight wall that further reduces (or increases horizon height) hence limiting it to (an optimistic) 90 degrees max

here, lemme show
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this wall is not transparent and btw its not modelled too detailed in game

so now we get this as deadzone

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if we assume 93° they will only start overlapping 50m away from the helicopter

but the inverse square law is a thing

and at 92° they will overlap 75m away from the helicopter

at 91° they will overlap 150m away from the helicopter

and it haveing coverage at 50m and beyond is what matters, as to safely divert a missile with proximity fuse you need to engage it fairly far away

Do we know at what distance the DIRCM engages on these helicopters? At least in the game files?

iirc around 500m to 1km

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that is under the assumption that it can even gimbal that far

my guys this is basic geometry

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how is it supposed to fire a laser throgh the opaque housing

oh and there seem to be different models irl

this one for example

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sure but we dont have that ingame sooo

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