The MI28NM problem

gives US JAGAM-MR a missile that was never publicly seen

gives Russia LMUR a missile that is over 10 years old atp
conclusion, gaijin pandering to russia

Mi-28NM is the only helicopter with LDIRCM blindspots
conclusion, gaijin pandering to russia

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And you ignore all previous pandering because and you pick and chose your data points.
LMUR having a top attack profile yet SPIKE, Hellfire, PARS and (well JAGM) when added did not have it.
They have proved they have the code to make it possible and only allowed it on one missile and that Missile was Russian.

Kh-38…Still the best missile in game and probably will be with even Kh-59 and others incapable of doing what Kh-38 can do. It is the perfect missile for War Thunder meta, Brimstones denied functionality (probably correct but it could have been balanced)

Soyuz…Oh boy this paper ship can load faster, has a smaller magazine, smaller calibre shells with near double the HE of the equals and armour that put it as the best Battleship in game…Now Russia/Soviet surface fleets were not very good at the time of WW2 and the fact this paper ship is superior to the greatest ships of the generation is the definition of pandering (because how can Russia not have the best or equal best of ships?)

Turret basket changes…Autoloader modules doing nothing and actually reducing spalling, unrealistic survivability, adding an FCS module and not enabling because it would impact Russian tanks.

There are 100s of examples and I get it, Russia is one of Gaijins largest customers but lets not pretend it doesn’t happen. And no I do not care about the state of the MiG 29, I raise you Tornado.

ah yes the country where the ppl have probably one of the lower spending powers especially showing when you look at their localized pricing on the market with their stuff being almost 50% cheaper than in the US even without sales

and lets just ignore the cuntry that gaijin made an extra client for and is bending everything for rn:

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China has recently moved in to that bracket I agree, It has always historically been Russian, USA and Germany as the largest player bases. I do think India was meant to be a separate tech tree in the hope to tap into that market but it has failed for now.

No it isnt that op cuz the ir hellfire is ass

Only because the baseline JAGM uses MMW/SAL seeker, and since MMW is an anathema for whatever erroneous reason (Obscurants for said bandwidth do exist). And besides a functional trimodal seeker for the Hellfire families’ form factor was demonstrated under the Joint Common Missile (AGM-169) program.

Though the AGM-114L-7 would have been sufficient, doesn’t help that much of what would make the AH-64E an improvement has yet to actually be implemented.

Also it’s fairly obvious that there is a line to be towed with Slow-rolling relevant reports that would materially improve the performance of some vechiles

like the Mig-29 FM reports that gaijin has been ignoring for years?
like the Su-27 FM which isnt anywhere close to its real life slow speed performance

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I’ve never sayed that… the can lock and track moving targets, but its done by the operator in the terminal phase of the missile.

“major tank offensive” is a strong word, for the type of warfere that we see in videos and LMUR was is every theater of operations… there tons of videos on Telegram a specialy from Kursk region. But yeah K-52 was the main character (according to media) in the failed summer offencive of 2023.

There are videos, when it was used against IVF (for MBTs I dont know) and the pilot locked the targets in the terminal phase of the missile… was the helicopter hovering or not we dont know…

That is personal assumtion, if not outright copium.

Oh believe me it will be even wors… if the LMUR had its LOAL capability, the Mi-28NM would hover behind cover and massacre the enemy team even better then now.

Russian has Hrisantema with MMW seeker… so no.

Wouldn’t the more likely explanation be that LMUR being IR guided is just very expensive and Russia is limiting its use, because they’re a bunch of brokies?

Is it tho? LMUR got introduced into serve in 2022(?) and seems to need a man in the loop. PARS got introduced in 2005 and spike in 1997.

PARS and Spike need clear line of sight… Spike also can be fired in LOAL, but also need man in the loop.
And “LMUR” first prototype was around the mid-late 2000’s.
The “copium” was mainly for the sentence “Ultimately LMUR is not that good it’s Russia first real attempt at a missile that is somewhat fire and forget.

So his point still stands since Russia got similar capabilities into service ~15 years after PARS?

But his point wasn’t for the “late” part…

He edited his comment, didn’t he? Because I
Think his initial point was that Russia is behind technologically which would check out with the dates

It could be… I don’t know

Yeah, and? Hellfire’s could have their “Self-Protect” cueing capability implemented; where RWR contacts can be used to semi-automatically launch missiles on said bearings to decrease response time.

Hell if we’re going to add LOAL, it would be turning up with the A-4E and AGM-62ER/DL & AWG-16 datalink, at ~9.7 or so.

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If they were to add LOAL It certainly wouldn’t remain 9.7 or so

Sure, but until it does.

And its not like there aren’t yet more A-4 variants that could effectively take its place. And assorted other stores that would help it maintain a higher BR if needed (e.g. 4x Siderwinders, access to AIM-9D, GPU-2/A, etc.)

Could well be, being honest Russia do not need to fire it in FnF mode with most of the SAMs being too short range to intercept the helicopter

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And connected exactly how to my sentence?