How can a LMUR provide a video feed to the heli?
That could only come from an FPV drone more likely an Lancet.
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It transmits the footage from the seeker? It’s an NLOS missile, not exactly magical technology.
EO guidance has been a thing since the 80s with the early SPIKE NLOS, not new technology
I wasnt aware it could do that. I like how it’s listed as a “protected” data link seeing how easy the UA have managed to break Russian EW systems it makes me wonder how secure it is.
Buddy this is nothing new or exclusive to drones or FPV, even the Martel AJ 168 transmit TV signals and this was back on the 70s
Exactly, it would make most Stinger platforms in game somewhat usable against helicopters in top tier, not to mention DL capabilities in the K Stinger variant. Somehow we are to believe that a late 60s seeker from Strela is somehow better than a MANPAD from the 80s
And yeah everyone stopped using it.
We use GPS/Laser guided and use a TGP to confirm if a target is destroyed.
These sorts of datalinks tend to either need a direct line of sight, or be fairly close to the receiver to function, due to the Bandwith requirements of a two way data-link, and the impact of the carrier frequency needed to achieve that, let alone retain some reserve capacity to make the link more resistant.
Here’s an example of the GBU-15 w/ AXQ-14
It is very easy to find out the frequency of an EW signal.
They stopped? you realize that there are more man in the loop missiles, the spikes are one of those…
you’re comparing 70’s munition to something that entered service in the last decade
technology has advanced since then
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Yes, if 2A7V and CR2 can share the same BR it means top tier is compressed to the point Leclercs shouldn’t go anywhere before decompression comes. Leclerc being godawful is yet another myth on this forum.
It shouldn’t be hard to remain at the MP height with helicopters. Radar signature of hovering helicopters could definitely be improved as well.
SACLOS AAs are a threat to the worst helicopter pilots, meanwhile better ones can easily play around them.
There’s barely anything more useless than an AA truck with no missiles left.
One 64E can waste AA’s 32 missiles in just two salvos, which as a result renders that truck completely useless and J-out worthy.
Agreed.
How important is it to even kill that AA if you can just fire off your missiles at other targets and let AAs waste all of theirs trying to intercept and/or kill you ?
Nowadays helicopters with 16 missiles can drain AAs pretty easily.
Sometimes having copypaste slop isn’t that bad, am I right ?
They offer us a look into how various tank designs perform when played by the same group of people.
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Thats not true, for example the SPIKE NLOS uses two way data link as well and they dont require form line of sight
We comparing Russian guidance tech with Israeli ones?
SPIKE NLOS is marked at 35-40km and can use a fibre optic data line.
It’s a far more advanced than the LMUR system
I would also hazard they give off a fair amount of electromagnetic emissions.
And ? for his argument he was using as an example a 70s bomb which as nothing to do with with the LMUR.
What are you even saying dude, the cope is insane.
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Sure, but physics haven’t changed. You might be able to improve things in a vacuum with better compression and transfer protocols but there are well understood absolute limits to the upper bound of performance which won’t have changed, especially if you want a reliable signal. and at low altitudes this is even further constrained due to the radar horizon, let those of alone radiated power and antenna design.
You can’t just assume that links would remain stable once the shooter moves.
It’s similar way to being able to track a drone based on the signal. Everything that transmits and receives has a electromagnetic signature.
Even when the helicopter has finished the strike it is still sharing data before those missiles hit.
Not to the target; but the missile.
Yes the DL the feed is securely contained within the fibre optics