The MI28NM problem

Because the Pantsir can see you behind cover, if a Pantsir knows you are there you cannot duel it with a laser guided ATGMs.

Yes but the airframe is inferior and the missile is inferior, lets swap Ka-50 with Ka-52

Any source or is it yet another fact you found in the depths of the internet ?

Do you have a correlation between more games = worse stats ?

US isn’t a minor nation.

US helicopters still share the same player pool with US ground vehicles.

Considering that most helicopters do not fly further than 500 meters from their point of appearance, any air defense system, even an old one, knows where the helicopters are.

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Only if you have missiles with the range, Pantsir outranges you the missile is faster
You ideally need to get closer to give yourself a chance. or park up the bird and accept you are going to die from it

It can’t.

You can. But most likely it will take quite a long time. The efficiency/time is just terrible.

I can do that too. Let’s swap ah64 with ah64e…

Reductive, we know the Ka-52 is weaker in game than the Ah-64E and that’s purely down to the missile.

My source is looking at the vikhr’s capabilities and comparing them to the hellfire’s. Again, I highly encourage you to play these vehicles instead of speaking as if you know why they were played and highly sought after.


Yes



Yet their helicopters are being played significantly less than minor nations. Why do you think that is?

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also because it lacks LDRICM

Ka-52M will be released soon and it will be the best helicopter in the game by a huge margin. Just have Gaijin intended.

I think it’ll do somewhat better than the mi28 because it’s much more survivable and has a dynamic play style but in terms of it’s ground attack capabilities, it’ll perform somewhat the same as the mi28.

It can probably carry more LMURs and it will be 2 helis in the Russian line up with FnF missiles…

With how ridiculously capable the new top choppers are, the Havoc NM should be 13.3 or higher and the other two should get at least 12.7 or higher.

They need that and modifications to their targeting logic (currently they lock on to a random module, internal or external and fly at it when they should go for center mass with slight deviation)

Well yes, it should also be made ineffective against proper imaging IR missiles, along with making helicopters emit a constant pulse doppler radar signal (their rotor disc is nearly impossible to hide IRL) for aircraft and AAM (fox 3) radars. More accuracy is one of the smarter ways to nerf these choppers.

Apache Guardian is stronger than the earlier helicopters easily, but I wouldnt go so far as calling it overpowered so far. I need experience playing against it to decide.

Havoc NM on the other hand is essentially 8 free kills from immunity and blows the JAGM and Spike and PARS choppers out of the water with consistency in killing, ability to reliably defeat SAM sites and self defense performance against close fighters.

Well yeah, that’s how to balance the advantage of F&F weapons give over SALH or similar systems. Hellfires and etc have to be guided in and leave the launch platform exposed, F&F just requires you to pop up, press a button or two and get kills while you defend.

In GRB if they add Mode 2 Brimstone 2 (LOBL) that gets blocked by smoke it’d be unfair to let the fighters run around with 18 of them, yeah.

But having that large number of F&F weapons in air battles against AI would be nice too. Especially as that opens the door for the possibility of large numbers of similar weapons in other nations.

Primarily fox 3 missiles should have their spawn cost reduced. They’re not as capable as they should be against helicopters and they’re super expensive to spawn.

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So only a subjective opinion, got it.

That’s a correlation between minor and major nations differing skill levels. Try something else please.

I don’t get where that plural comes from as only Chinese 12.3 helicopter is played more than US ones at 12.0.

So your argument for the Ka50 platform being used much more is because it’s weapon system is unique and no other nation has it? What made them unique?


Nope it’s a minor nation only means something when that said vehicle isn’t played as much. That’s what make them minor in the first place. Hope that helps :)


Right…


Before you start playing word semantics like you always do, I’m talking about top tier, not a certain br.

Can you provide proof on this one?
Lmur is used to target dron| operator buildings where blast is best.
Never used on open unprotected personnel.

LMUR is used routinely on daily basis it’s standart weapon nowadays

Yes, Vikhr is unique and only single nation uses that, so playing it elsewhere isn’t possible. Meanwhile US helicopters were just yet another Hellfire slingers available in who knows how many nations and tiers already. Ka-50 definitely has a very big unique factor attached to it.

Minor nations are inherently less popular due to real life reasons and as such are often played more by people that already passed through one or more tech trees (major ones most likely). This naturally increases their stats.

For your example above, give that plane for 10k matches to the average US and UK player and watch them perform pretty differently. Vehicles having less games is a symptom of minor nations, while them having better stats comes from the average player being better.

That’s still China.

LMUR isn a High Explosive Fragmentation Warhead. It’s not meant to be used against armored targets. You saying it’s being used against buildings, often times ruins with drone operators inside isn’t disproving that but actually showing that it’s used in a way to hit areas and personell.

A simple google search, including Russian sources such as Ways for further development of the 305 rocket / LMUR show it’s a High Explosive Fragmentation Warhead.

Also, in total as far as I could find only 70 were confirmed to have been used, to varying degrees of success. And whether it actually has the stats claimed on the informations handed out by the manufacturer are a wholly different question.

But certainly you can give me the sources of it being used “on daily bases” and “as standard weapon nowadays”, including against MBTs and co? While you’re at it, please also show me the magic DIRCM the Mi28NM has, which can easily defeat entire missile swarms all at once, including missiles meant to be immune to it!

Yes

It’s overkill for any vehicle. Lancet are best for this purpose

Literally the day before seen kh39 footage. They’re used daily. Doesn’t seem like 1 of those"200”