Noticed how I mentioned that you can check a player that has hellfire-only platforms, vikhr platforms and you’ll see a difference in KD.
Where does your stats say that. I told you go look at a player that has both the vikhr platforms and hellfire-only platforms, not to go look at global stats where there are so many factors in play.
Reading ain’t that hard bro
Helicopter modifications won’t grind themselves, so you have to do heli rushes anyways and Ka-52 is simply better at that, hence it’s stats would be much less impacted by spam rushing.
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I know reading comprehension and critical thinking might not be your forte but PLEASE, find your carer. You might be going senile
So now we’re valuing stats from a single player more than global ones ?
You do realize that plethora of things can influence your single player stats as well ?
Cmon… surely its got nothing to do with the fact that Ka52s damage model has been absolutely bullshit for years, where direct hits with dart wouldnt do any real damage*. Or the fact that losing a tail isnt an instant “spin of death”, OR the fact that its got APDS ammo belt with 0SP cost that can kill tanks from top extremely easily AND has 450 rounds of said ammo belt.
Oh and almost forgot, DIRCM that made it immune to all IR missiles before photo-optical mode has been added… to 3 SPAAs.
Surely yes, it is because every single Ka52 doing helirushes was doing it because of “the mod grind”
*until they finally added inner modules
You do realize those things would just positively impact the Kamov’s stats ?
When doing heli rushes you’re basically free food for AAs from 8.3 and up, while with Vikhrs you’re often times only being really challenged by top tier AAs ? Picking one way to play that helicopter isn’t hard.
yes, because due to the poor performance of hellfires only more skilled players were still playing those platforms, as indicated by the massive difference in number of matches
and people are also only spawning them on maps that support heli gameplay, and possibly only if they think the other team doesnt have too much AA up
The point is to illustrate that Kamov stats were affected by Helirushing because it has a very solid kit that supports heli rushing.
Its still a suicidal thing to do which explains a lot about the higher deaths. As you yourself have pointed out.
So realistically and rationally, a lot of deaths are not just from your “average” helicopter ATGM gameplay but also from heli rushes. Which skews the K/D and K/S thats being discussed here. Idk do i need to get a red string to make it easier to understand?
Because I specifically mention to look at a player who has both platforms? You’ll generally see that the Ka52 performs better than the Apaches. Not a hard concept to grasp.
T4T foolishly brought up global stats thinking as if it’s a gotcha moment when in fact all it shows is why the Ka52 is popular in the first place
Because it was and even after the nerfs towards the vikhrs, it was still quite good right before new spaa were added.
It’s a good Idea, but it will soon turn in to “x bias”, “y is OP”/“y is not OP, z is OP”… objective discussions are a reare sigh on the forum.
You want me to go and manually check each player, does he have both helicopters?
And how many times do I have to look at it so that the conclusion is approximately accurate?
Besides, the player’s statistics do not show when he played with that heli.
Here, the same like comparing a year ago added a 25sm3 to the game, when it was 12.0, there were no AHR missiles in the game, especially the new spaa, and he simply dominated, and the current su34.
Tell me that su25sm3 is better.
Im done with you.
Backed into a corner, starts to insult. Nothing strange. Im done with you too.
Mi 28 and LMUR are dumb, it’s another broken ill thought out addition. It elevates Russians already disgusting CAS options Su-30 - Su-34 and now this to add to it.
Look enjoy it but don’t pretend it’s not disgustingly overpowered.
I wouldn’t mind as much if the game now didn’t feel like nothing more than Russian state sponsored propaganda. I’m sure BVVD bank account is looking healthy though.
Let’s honest. That was problem with ALL helicopter models… we all relate to the Ka50/52 becous those heli’s are more common.
Ka50/52 does have tail rotor so it doesn’t go in to “spin of death”… yeah it was way to controlable after losing it’s tail and that was fixed (to late )… i think… now when you lose the tail its start the “leave vehichle” countdown.
We don’t know the percentage of heli rushes being done between helicopters, so your theory might be correct, or not.
You do realize the same website you use to cherry pick stats is the same website where you can check a player’s history on a certain vehicle. Granted it only applies to 2025, but that’s enough to give you a good understanding .
The entire point is to show how much superior the Vikhr platform is to hellfire ones.
I understand that you get pleasure from rage baiting people, but come one man, at least play some vehicles that only have hellfires to make your lies believable.
I have created a new thread with a couple of polls on the main issues discussed here and some proposed solutions, feel free to suggest any polls / changes. My goal is for this to be 100% impartial .
Massive difference in number of matches can easily be explained by the much easier path RU has to their top tier vehicles. For years US didn’t have a premium helicopter with MAWs for example.
I think Mi-28NM and AH-64E are powerful in skilled hands, I do not however think they are OP.
Rotors need to be modeled for radar cross section and damage by fire primarily.
Not really, both trees require 7 helicopters to reach top tier.
That wasn’t the determining reason on why players didn’t buy the Peten. It was mainly because of the hellfires. It doesn’t help that the 64D didn’t bring more to the table and was more or less a 64A with slightly better (albeit still crappy) hellfires, MAW (if you sacrifice stingers), and a radar