For the longest time, Germany had the only IR agm
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Well European have LOAL brimstone too and that thing can be use on eurofighter yep x16 of them can be carry by one plane with all LOAL
does that mean German Britain and Italy should have them in the game right now since they spend billions of euros developed this weapons?
How about US their spending money developed weapons than anyone in the words should they get everything they have in the game?
You better be careful what you wish for.
U.S 64E is already deep into fiction/future anyway
pretty sure neither CIRCM for Apache nor tri-seeker AGM-179 (the only version with IR seeker, main model is MMW+Laser) are in production or even finalised
works perfectly fine from my experience
CIRCM has been forward deployed since 2022
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Buddy of mine in my squadron spawned a BMP-2M, got some scouting assists and a damage assist, no kills; died, spawned an Mi-28NM and then proceeded to go on a 19 kill streak. Ground RB.
oh and 2 air kills with it. so 21.
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I’d take that route. with how indonesian arm procurement trajectory I doubt we’ll get ANYTHING for existing vehicles that are not F-16V Ozgur.
It would be so cool if Gaijin had a squadron US AH-64D with SPIKE NLOS. No particular reason
paid actor enemy team, I play my mi28 i get yoloed by 6 planes and perma stared at by a ito.
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He also has exceptional stat on AH-64E 3.0 K/D ill wait until dust settles and stat will show something informative.
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What are you talking? Spikes both from grownd launch and air have they’re top-attack.
Helis are mostly irrelevant except for transport
Because guess what :
- IIR missiles are mostly immune to LDIRCM
- Manpads aren’t half as bad as they are in this game (some are even IIR as well, but they don’t exist in game)
- Blade return is a thing
- Multipath doesn’t exist like it does in game
A heli getting anywhere close to a SAM site, be it short range or not, is a dead heli. It’s mostly used for transport now
As for Mi28s home country, let’s just say its technological future is not looking bright, and its defence sector is plunging into irrelevance by the minute
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Not really “top” attack it goes up a little but flies into the tank at a 10-30 degree angle still hitting the front / side of the tank at a slighly upward angle in my experience (unless ofc its heli fired and you are hovering at a significant altitude. The only true top attack missile in the game right now is the LMUR.
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Fixed it for you X)
PARS yes… but the SPIKE/AGM-179/LMUR all hit at pritty much the same way that 45-70 degree (rough estimation from the kill feed), non of them strikes from the “top” (80-90 degree).
Tbf I have experience with only with ground launched SPIKEs…
Perfect so you agree that PARSs lethality suffers from the way its FnF is modeled
Not just missile immunity, you can’t even lock onto an Mi-28NM using a targeting pod like the LITENING III until you’re literally almost right on top of it…
Next level protection from devs…
No, the hit performance on PARSs is terrible. On UHT i got a personal rule that if its a light tank or TD i fire one PARS, if its an MBT i fire 2-3 depending on type, against Pantsirs (and by proxy the newer SPAAs) i fire anywhere between 2-4 to account for interception and shit damage.
Its not uncommon to get a hit on transmission or the driver only with PARSs when attacking pantsir.
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Also feels kinda weird to argue about helicopter performance with someone whos only helicopter they ever touched is the german Alouette.
UHT is currently in just a shit position. Mi28NM with LMURs is just nasty as fuck and were literally replaying Su34 with Kh38MT on release. A ubiquitous vehicle with missiles that have nearly guaranteed kill probability due to the flight path and warhead.
Oh and people comparing hellfire and LMUR flight path (you know who you are) are just stupid. Hellfires dont fall straight down unlike LMURs, they loft (which you can augment by pitching up before release at the cost of them possibly losing the target spot) but not as much as the LMURs do on their own. Hell you can even have your helicopter pitched downwards and they will still loft like crazy.
Ive been playing Mi28NM for few days now with the LMURs and its genuinely disgusting how well they perform in most situations where other missiles would fail.
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Using the ‘stats = balanced’ argument is just a midwit response to the issue here, that being the poor modelling of the missiles, the fact that someone can get a lucky 2 kills disregards the amount of sorties required for those kills, and fails to take into account the number of missiles fired per target, the true measure of capability here should be Number of Missiles fired in a lifetime - Number of kills, and rhe lower that number, the better the heli/missile.
The Mi-28NM compared to the UHT is a pretty pathetic comparison anyway, and just shows that the PARS (and hopefully SPIKES) deserve a buff in order to compete, or a decrease in BR
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