I don’t look in short few months i look all times which still higher and FnF UHT definitely been a game more than three years.
PARS3LRs suffer from the same issues as all FnF HEAT missiles. The damage is all over the place and RNG, dependant on release direction, tank attitude, altitude and which spot the missile chooses to guide to.
Pre-LDIRCM helicopters it was one of the strongest helicopters ingame since FnF used to be limited to few nations and could counter Pantsir, Ito and such.
Right now the UHT is the weakest of all 12.3 helicopters, virtually worthless against anything with LDIRCM and takes atleast a modicum of not playing like a moron to make work.
LMURs and PARSs are not the same, they are incomparable. The strike path is completely different, the range is different, the kill potential is completely different, they are incomparable in reliability, with the only thing that ties them together is being FnF missiles.
UHT and Mi28NM are also completely different platforms in handling. While the Mi28NM is heavy (still controllable however) the UHT is very nimble, at the cost of safety from IR missiles like Fb10A or IRIS-Ts for example, less countermeasures and a gun which is pretty big deal.
Add to it that the NM also has backup beamriding missiles that are still extremely capable, while the only other thing available to UHT are HOT3s and APKWS which are very shit and take the same slots as PARSs.
The 28NM is currently the most powerful of all FnF helis, with UHT not being able to do anything to it realistically while at the same BR of 12.3.
why
Because as i said PARS FnF been in the game longer than three years it first since night vision update that six years ago yet all times stats still say Vikhr have high K/D so by moto logic base on his obsession with stats that mean Vikhr is better than PARS after all these years (I don’t make this rule don’t ask me)
It’s simply time to abandon top tier, Gaijin have shown time and time again that the only thing they care about is new premiums, or extortionately long grinds for new vehicles that basically have a direct end result of people paying to progress.
SPAA is obscenely overpowered vs both tanks and planes - enjoy playing any form of CAS at 8.0+ that uses dumb munitions. SPAA however does absolutely nothing to counter people bobbing up and down from the helipad to fire of F&F munitions or otherwise before retreating to safety in seconds, rearming, and doing it all over again… which is the real issue - or Sukhois doing the same thing and firing AGMs from the airfield, immediately re-landing… etc
Far too much imbalance at this tier and it’s simply not fun, Gaijin have had plenty of time to apply changes to both balance and quality of life, but instead they focus on shoehorning copy/paste $60 premium packs into minor nations. Oh well
Or that PARS is being intercepted more often than Vikhr due to it’s inferior speed ?
@ARK_BOI
I’m still talking about the current state of the game, not 2020.
February to August isn’t just a “short, few months” and coincidentally those perfectly describe the current state of the game.
It seriously Gaijin own incompetent that postpen HEAT damage are piss poor how the hell Warhead design to kill tanks do so little damage against tanks after penetration I don’t know of not incompetent then what i should call.
It might look like that but it’s actually something you can regularly see people parroting on this forum, so me mentioning that goes perfectly with the spirit of the forum.
The fact you only get to control when the missile is launched and have no saying in how the missile behaves during it’s flight definitely drops down it’s efficiency, despite it being easier to use.
Better stats mean better stats (your logic)it no other ways arounds since FnF PARS mean around the game for six years
Still not even a year passed still short PARS FnF been in the game for six years yet Vikhr still have higher K/D starting to get lower like this year Feb? That still short times so overall Vikhr still better than PARS by stats overall
I think the main issue i see is inconsistency.
This update perfectly shows that gaijin are capable of making fine fnf missiles with the russian LMUR missiles and then ofc past updates to the KH38. The main inconsistency (i think at least from what ive saw in replays) is that these missiles loft up so they can actually top attack. Meanwhile the western equivalents just dont, or at least not at the level to be effective. Mavericks for example just seem to get weaker and weaker everytime i use them in terms of guidance and just instantly go into a straight line for them.
Not sure if its just laziness or Gaijin once again showing love to the russian stuff, but its just the inconsistencies which make things worse imo. Dont get me wrong other countries have broken stuff, but overall, Russia has the strongest lineup in terms of GRB when thinking of tanks, heli, aa and aircraft. Yes there are countries with individually are stronger, but as a lineup perspective i think Russia does have the strongest overall lineup from the last few updates hence the abundance of ussr players atm with these new additions putting it overall back at the top.
Me speaking about 2025 means just that.
Things that happened in 2020, 2021 or 2022 have no value when looking at the current state of the game.
Vikhirs are also on heli’s with a much lower BR than the UHT, the UHT has to compete with mostly top tier spaa, while the Vikhir missiles are generally spammed at like 11.7 with the ka50 not generally fighting top tier spaa. Not really equivalents. I would say that the PARS are better just because of what they offer for heli protection. Try using vikhir missiles agaisnt ito or irst, if you arent in a mi28nm then you are 100% cooked.
All times say otherwise and like i said PARS been around six years if PARS really god tier missile they should get higher K/D than Vikhr around one years after they got FnF but it doesn’t so by your logic Vikhr still better than PARS because it able it achieve high K/D than PARS for more than five years straight i’m not making this stats rule you did
Well they face same SPAA capabilities until IRIS-T come around
The US dumped metric tons of money into the F-22 program. It isn’t ingame although it’s contemporaries are for balance reasons.
The US also spent lots of money on their helicopters too, JAGM-MR should be just as lethal as LMUR. It should have MMW guidance to boot, since the US dumped so much money into developing MMW seekers right?
And if they do add chaff smoke grenades for MMW they should only be added to NATO nations since they dumped money into them, just like Russia and having good missiles right?
If ask me without stats involved i would say it better in different ways both have their own use (i’m not the one making this rule that Vikhr is total better than PARS moto with his obsession with stats did)
The Kh-38MT is quite literally an AGM-65D/G that accelerates faster to a higher peak speed for an effective range of 21km instead of 17km.
That’s not inconsistent, that is copy-paste seeker code.
Also, Gaijin could be working with new top attack code; In-fact, I don’t see major differences between the lofting of LMUR and AGM-114s currently.
Maybe there’s some marginal differences here… I just don’t see anything major.
Soviets do not have the strongest lineup.
Their fixed wing CAS is countered by SPAA that 5 tech trees have.
Their tanks don’t fit the lolpen mobility meta right now.
Mi-28NM is strong, but when USA has an equally if not stronger helicopter with a notably stronger ground lineup… it’s no question.
HSTVL + 5+ Abrams firing M829A2 is stronger than 2 T-72s, and a T-80BVM.
Dont kid ourself. indonesia use Romeo Hellfire and that’s a SAL version.
Depends if Gaijin want to add it or not unless they go straight give 114L to 64DJP
Russia did develop LMUR?