The MI28NM problem

you can test it yourself mate, go above 60 meters in a heli and see how long it takes you to get hit by a missile, ARH seekers are EXTREMELY weak ingame this coupled with the fact they rely on the doppler effect to track means that helicopters are extremely overperfoming against them, Irl helicopter rotors produce a large radar signature on doppler radars(as you would expect from having extremely fast spinning blades on the top of the aircraft) its part of the reason the comanche was scrapped.

like do you have the SLIGHTEST idea on how the game works? multipath is just the nail in the coffin but its far from the main reason.

so less than 60m dont matter ?

yeah funny comming from you

brotha did you even understand a thing i said?

huge rcs dont mean 100% garantie kill.

so you dont?

Spawning cas to point and click 6 tanks out of existence with impunity due to fnf missiles is too cheap.
Having to spawn cas as the only means to reliably deal with a cheaper LDIRCM helicopter is too expensive.

there is nothing to understand here, fox 3 cant kill a target at 30m or less. think otherwise, show me a clip.

didnt have that today, most of them miss like crazy.
the problem is the damn track radar of the pantsir, like dude i am trying to track and the thing lose lock like its a roland system.

you literally have no idea what youre talking about, 30 meters is the sweetspot, below 30 meters you risk dying much more from the splash damage. you literally missed the point entirely too, not only do you not know how the game works you dont even know english.

depend on the system, different warhead/explosive type/mass/splash damage. i dont need to show you buy here we are.

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2 different point:

blade creat big radar signature : that about detection, will be more detectabale and faster than the useal.

other point is fox3 kills on heli: having huge radar signature dont mean its easy to kill it, gripen or su34, the multipath still happen. that a exemple if you brain didnt notice

well well well, ofc i am not a native english speaker just like 50% or more of the forum, its still funny comming from you, dont forget the kh69 situation, telling things with no thinking before talking is bad choice to do. go as much as you want, maybe you will get it

not really even a derby can kill you in a multipath(derby is the smallest diameter fox 3 ingame afaik), bigger warheads make it more likely, but multipath does not and has never made anyone invulnerable to arh

no, detection is quite easy right now, its about tracking.

yes it quite literally does, i cant decipher the rest of what youre trying to say.

im not either, and you being absolutely ignorant on the kh59mk2 and making insane leaps of logic to cope isnt related to the fact you have no idea what youre talking about here.

and before you bring it up, the main reason why fox 3s are so ineffective against fixed wing too is not rally multipath mainly either, its how radar workings are modelled when over the horizon and awful seekers, multipath is only really an issue with fixed wings its one of Many issues. whilst with helis its just a matter of plain awful modelling of over the horizon radar.

wasting my time with you, get over man, you got nothing to say and you reapeat the same thing over and over. just at the end to proove nothing.

blade with bigger radra signale or not, the missile still track.

the heli can chaff + multipath like you said.

that it, there nothing more to say here. you just gonna repeat and blocking you brain from understanding just as you always do.

these guys are coping so hard rn just to keep their OP LDIRCM helis

what they dont know is that all the ‘features’ they have are unrealistic
Helis arent so stealthy irl, they have a bigger IR signature, MP is also a lot less irl not to mention missile seekers can distinguish the real target from the reflection

btw, they also dont know this

LDIRCM works by dazzling or making a false IR target for the missile, and seeker shutoff guidance mode would mostly ensure a kill anyway. its gaijins silly code that doesnt allow IRIST to do seekr shutoff and instead immediately deoys it

they ALSO dont know this
IRIS-T SLM not only has LDIRCCM irl, but it also has DL throughout its flight time. so even if the IIR seeker gets decoyed, the DL guidance will lead it directly to the target.

oh and yeah this bug report has been accepted.
good luck heli players. keep up with the times or be left behind

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God forbid the bottom 99% of heli players use terrain and their brains to avoid dying the moment they take off. If I can make the UHT work so can you in a hand-held helicopter.

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Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooon…

Until these helicopters were sold for enough money that other players were so disgusted by them that they quit the game.

Helis can’t multipath what are you smoking

It’s physically impossible unless moving above 300km/h and they have different radar physics anyways

i am not heli player ofc there will be things that i dont know.
its better that we stop here since both of us never played top tier heli. nothing that you and i say matter anymore

Lol

dont act like you play helis too

Nope but I I don’t have to play helis to understand why my aim120s don’t connect.