And we shouldn’t make the same mistake again? This talking point is so disingenuous. That boat sailed long ago, we are in a new environment. Bringing up past traumas to justify something in the present is not a great argument.
I wasn’t even around when the UHT was added, I have no feelings about that past situation. Just what’s currently relevant to all of us.
Agreed. That’s why we’re arguing in this thread.
The combination of helis with near immunity to AA + F&F is toxic to play against.
Bringing up past balance transgressions that none of us had power over doesn’t help anyone’s case.
We all want a fun game here.
i think i am done here so good luck you guys, i dont wanna get muted for trying to explain myself like one time
THEY LOCK THE SAME RANGE YES, BUT THE LMURS REFUSE, AND I MEAN ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO LOCK PAST 5.0 MILES IN OPEN TERRAIN. Stop being so naive.
Btw, trying to use my argument in a different way than how it is, is just disingenuous.
and so do JAGMS, and I assume its the same for CK502 and BA11
stop acting like your absurdly OP missiles are worse than everything else
Stop acting like Russian weapons are an instant win button.
oh yes, lets just add a new AGM for russia
put it on a platform that is already over preforming with a defense system that magicaly uses a laser to defeat missiles through its airframe
make it the only helicopter launched missile with an actual lofting flight path
make sure it is the most meta warhead type
nerf tanks that it fights roof armor right after its added so it reliably kills everything it fights
give the helicopter twice as many of them as there is evidence for it carrying
… probably missed a few too
Mi-28NM “over preforming” sounds like an opinion, even funnier you think it was over preforming before it got LMURs. I bet if it was USA you’d say it was perfectly balanced lol.
LDIRCM is functional better on both the Chinese and AH-64E helis.
Should I bring up the other really great helis that never got a nerf?
Oh-58
little bird
G-Lynx
Any of those to discuss? Because they’re even more broken at their own brs.
Removed more roof armor from tanks benefited all weapon systems not just the Russian one, you are being biased.
I’ve literally said they should fix the lofting for anything that has lofting.
“Most meta warhead” 1200mm pen HEAT vs… HE is rather have the HEAT. But it’s your opinion that HE is better.
The USA & Russia were some of the last or receive IR ATGMs.
They could’ve added the KORNET EM
He’s doing his best to ragebait others.
He’s one of the people that belives there are no double standards.
So do PARS, and JAGMs and LMURs, and BA-11… It’s a broken game dude, it’s not a secret thing the devs sneaked in.
At least someone gets it.
There aren’t? Why doesn’t the USA receive br nerfs, but Russia constantly does.
That’s a double standard ;)
it absolutely was though, by far the best heli in the game at that point
and they dont magically disable a missile by pointing a laser through the opaque fuselage
they are not though? at least 58 and ah6m, idk on Glynx but since its nerf its not been as opresive as 28nm
oh yes, nerfing the roof armor specifically against HE damage clearly helps the non HE weapons, and helps the missiles that dont impact the targets roof as much as the one that does
that is such a stupid take
oh yes let me take the 30-50% chance of kill over the 80-90% chance
Let’s just get this ragebait done.
Yes, both got the F&F missiles late but Russia got 100% of it, maybe even 110%, picture perfect.
USA got JAGM-MR… well, 50% of it, wrong lofting, missing 2 guidance types and more :)
Yeah, it can carry twice as much but you still need 2 to get a solid chance for a kill.
Go check the „LMUR and JAGM lofting“ thread. As clear difference as day and night.
The new weapon systems get fixed rather quickly after a major update and if not, they just go onto the „Ignored NATO bug reports“ pile.
-PARS with a direct manufacturer’s source stating TOP-ATTACK mode? Nope.
-Video of a LMUR killing a BMP crew over a bridge? Say no more, add lofting and top attack to it NOW.
Helffire, JAGMs, Spike are also due for getting their top-attack capabilities, I hate this double standard.
BWVD where the fk man in loop??
If we are going with that argument, why are MZ loaders the slowest reloads at top tier? When their cyclogram data literally points to a 6.0 sec reload but in game it’s 6.5.
The game is randomly balanced for random balance. They need steady balance.
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Then make a bug report about it? It was a leak after all, Gaijin never officially announced anything, they might implement it this update. Why jump to conclusions so early? And it doesn’t really answer their question:
Why was LMUR granted top-attack and lofting when JAGM/Spike/PARS should’ve also received them?