A single Pantsir-S1 was able to shoot down all 16 of my JAGMs, I was sending 6 at once before taking cover.
IRIS-T, FlaRakRad or similar suffered and was at best able to get 3 of my JAGMs.
Yeah, the LMURs are the „top dog“ right now, I think the Vikhrs should get reduced SP, it’s not like they are the only ones with 10km range, beem riding and proxy fuse
They don’t have top dog coefficient. Their cost is base price * 1.96 (missile > 6km) * 1.09 (proxy).
Lets reduce Hellfires too. Russian mains have some crazy takes
Please don’t, just make them fix Hellfires after 3 years of begging
His “discount” variant is totally better. Or I would say more usefull with their current state.
buddy you just talking for nothing, you just repeat my word without understanding.
let me help you bit,
if we make dircm more realistic, the system that got advantage is ir and atgms like irts and spikes.
and there is only 2 missile ( 1 good ) who mainly use ir missile at top tier, irst sls and slm ger and swe.
magical ? that maybe multipath, its not just heli, also plane can multipath. happen with every system now, buk / claws and many others.
And for the sake of argument, let’s say that DLRICM can deflect missiles, but they add a limit and cooldown between each one. You still have a powerful tool that allows you to “notch” IR missiles in a way.
But it wouldn’t be as overpowered as it currently is, being able to deflect 16 missiles is not fun to play against. Top tier helicopters currently have no match, it’s just a one-sided battle, where the only counterplay is either obsolete SACLOS AA or a plane with a strafe run or laser missile that costs like 710 SP.
ARH are also underperforming badly against helicopters because you can just notch missiles by flying sideways and farting chaff.
still proove my argument, only ir will have advantage as the heli will only multi path.
I just said it, also you can use cover and terrain after you parried a missile, you don’t have to… you know, continue to fly in the LOS of the radar?
So? Sometimes tech trees have specific advantages especially in the SPAA department. Im sure you didnt complain when the USSR had a range and gun advantage in that field.
Not to mention that IR missiles are found everywhere
ok so its russian main bais type of excuse, i didnt chose to add the pantsir, dont put the dev choice on me. they made a mistake not me. also the buk is trash the pantsir system still better.
they made the choice to add the pantsir at that time instead of the tor system
Im not making an excuse, you are. Trying to prevent a realistic and balanced implementation of LDIRCM, because some trees could then handle Helis better than others is peak hypocrisy with the amount of asymmetrical capabilities we have in game.
what ? i never took side, like that or this idc i can still take down helis
again you putting this on me like i am the dev, get a break dude
It’s magical, the blades aren’t modeled in the radar simulation and there are many times I’ve had a clear sky background and my radar refused to pick up the helicopter.
The only radars that somewhat ignore this are AA with tracking radars like the pantsir, tor or roland variants.
CLAWS is so hit or miss you have to drive to the midway points on maps with your radar truck to reliably get a lock. Which is crazy for a 12.3 AA.
i was not talking about detection but more about the fox 3 missile that cant hit the heli because of multipath. 2 different things
Ah so it’s another racimazzedine complaining that realistic LDIRCM would be favoritism, my apologies to you then.
sorry you cant understand. i am not against it but i am not for it. bring it problem solved.
ir system will advantag over other spaa, do you want that ? that not much balenced as fox3 system will more trash than they are now.
if you cant understand this, good luck on your journey in the forum
Oh no a vehicle has an advantage over another in the same class, whatever would we do! Buddy that’s basically standard in a game with realistic implementations. The fact that Gaijin doesn’t want to properly model helicopter radar returns is no reason to make everything else complete fantasy. In fact since the Iris t SLM now boasts a whopping 4km IR lockrange having proper radar returns on helis would benefit everyone.
Asking about favoritism as first reaction to someone wanting realistic LDIRCM makes it seem very much like you’re against it. Maybe rethink your wording and if you can’t then good luck on your journey in the forum.
All IR AGMs share the same lock range code and logic, saying one missile has more lock range than others is plainly wrong lol. Well, except for the Penguin :)
