The MI28NM problem

I’m really hoping this week’s CM post touches on DLIRCM, they really need to cook a better and realistic implementation, because having to rely on “RNG” is not “fair play”.

The Mi-28NM is excessively powerful and can already jam radar-guided missiles.

I saw one of these dispatching a few Mi-28MN last night who thought they were invulnerable:

Spoiler

The ol’ girl has found a use.

Spike LR2 would also be an excellent Mi-28 killer if Gaijin would model EO/TV guidance for it.

except the JAGMS are 25% less deadly. So the Mi-28 should lose 4 of its LMURS. Then a AH64E would go 4/16, and Mi28 would go 4/4. That’s balance. Acc to your logic.

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Have this clip, it’s more related to the topic of the thread, DIRCM not improved after the seeker “”“buffs”“”


I’ll try to grab more clips to show how abysmal the SLM experience is.

or maybe russia is specifically mentioned, because its the by far best performing ground nation rn and the MI28NM is the top tier vehicle with the best KD and second most played helicopter?

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That’s likely because more people had that tech tree done over others?

Sure, USSR is the most popular top tier tree after all and because the MI28NM was only one mod while the 64E was a completely new vehicle.

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Well, they could’ve added it to the KA-52, which would’ve required a new model.

I don’t make the choices.

Yeah and they didnt? I just explained why the MI28NM currently gets more deserved hate than the other 2 LDIRCM helis. That might change with the November stats when more and more chines and US players get their toys but until then its MI hate all the way

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same with JAGM with MMW

I’m a bit confused. What factors did you consider when determining that JAGMS are 25% less deadly?

The videos I’ve seen of both since I don’t have any unlocked yet.

Can you link me the videos you’ve watched? My experience using both of them tell me otherwise. HEAT warheads in general are not consistent.

The JAGM’s flight path is what really kills it. It doesn’t usually go top-down and hits vehicles at a very shallow angle which can result in

  • hitting heavily armored
  • getting volumetric
  • or if it does pen, it’s post pen damage is directed in to not hit many vital components.

Don’t get me wrong, there are times where I can get one hit kills but compared to the LMURS, it is no where near as effective.


this might be placebo, but the JAGMS suck at locking targets that are partially covered where as with LMURS, I don’t seem to have this issue nearly as much.


In my opinion, 2 JAGMS = 1 LMUR. However if the flight profile of the JAGMS, my opinion might change to where 1 JAGM = 1 LMUR.

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More like 1 JAGM = 25% kill chance, same for PARS. It’s literally a 1/4 gamble for each missile fired. The kill potential of HEAT warheads would be something like 80% if Gaijin would model top-attack for everyone else that’s missing it.

I’ve forced PARS to come down at a steep angle, and the results are shocking, it’s basically a 1 hit K/O.

The overpressure + HEAT effect from roof shots is enough to take out most tanks. But Gaijin clearly doesn’t think that having top attack weapons in the game is broken, given that LMURs were introduced with their correct lofting on day one.

I just want this BS double standard sh*t to end, it’s either no lofting or lofting for everyone. I mean, just look at Spikes, the most underperforming missile when it comes to loft angles.

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How old is that one Hellfire bug report? 3 years? Something like that.
Hellfires haven’t been fixed for the past 3 years, good luck trying to fix the JAGM to a respectable level in a reawonable time.

Also about the spikes, it’s kinda a balancing factor, F&F quick fire ATGM with 90% killrate would be a bit crazy

We all know NATO nations can only get the chopped versions.

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Except that doesn’t really matter now, Gaijin gave LMUR the most possible deadly trajectory possible, the old reasoning of “balance” is out the discussion.

OTOMAGIC supremacy.

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DIRCM should be removed fromn the game. It’s an unfun mechanic that’s impossible to balance. Gaijin need to stop putting $60 top tier copy paste premiums and fix their goddamn game. Unfortunately that’s never going to happen, we saw how tone deaf the bvvd Q&A was, they do not care for balance or player feedback, they prefer bathing in their money.

Edit: oh and just one more observation, the curren op vehicle is once again a russian vehicle … but surely that’s just a coincidence, not at all similar to the kh38, pantsir, magical caroussel without ammo in russian MBTs… that’s just a coincidence …

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