The "Leopard Problem" of Top Tier Ground

Australian boxer and trialed kf41 to germany lets go

the SEP is better than the 2A6/90M and about on par with the BVM lol. What not actually having reached top tier does to perspectives lol.

I would say the ranking is 2A7s/122s > M1A2 SEP/Type 10s > BVM/M1A2/2A6(maybe) > everything else

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Can we name the strv122 first.
They have a slight edge, nevermind that u get 3 in your line up

And still would put the bvm as close behind the 2a7/m1a2. Its troll armor happens again and again

Fine by me, I generally just named them as brackets/groups of vehicles that were close to eachother anyway.

Regarding the BVM, I was initially considering putting it in the same bracket/group as the Type 10s/M1A2 SEP.

That’s how vehicles should work unless the main nation explicitly operates them, e.g. Swedish 2A4.

So the German Leo 2 in Canadian service goes Germany, American Abrams in Aussie service goes to the US, but for some unknown reason the Russian T-90S in Indian service, went to the British tree, despite it’s gameplay sharing NO similarities to the other British tanks of the tier…

Consistency and Gaijin don’t mix.

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For the 100th time, India is an official sub-tree of Britain, and therefore all Indian vehicles will only go to Britain. Canada and Australia are not sub-trees, their vehicles will go to the most relevant nation (Leopards to Germany, Abrams to US).

Tbh nobody deserves Leopard apart from Germany and Sweden

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fr, they keep ruining what makes nation exclusive by sharing the principal mbts from a country, France didnt deserve these leopards.

Write a letter to the German goverment, asking them to stop exporting stuff then

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write a letter to gaijin instead

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I have literally no issue with countries getting their real vehicles.

Does it ruin ‘exclusivity’, sure?. But we live in an era of a few principle manufacturing nations being mass exporters, so it’s inevitable.

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yeah, but france is a major arms manufacturer. They have MANY vehicles that could be added to the tech tree.

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Yeah, Britain doesn’t need four subtrees when most nations don’t even have one. Especially when such so-called trees are really just “give us leopards and Abrams!!!1!1!”

France is a bit of a different case, because obviously they have much more domestic alternatives that could have come.

I have no issue with something like 2A7HU for Italy though. Leo’s shouldn’t just be for GER/SWE and noone else, if there’s a solid argument to do so.

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Because india is a subtree, and with that prigims dont matter anymore, dunno what u dont understand here

There’s no reason for you to have a 4 second reload with an armor profile that stomps the only tanks with a 4 second reload. Being able to stay hull down and sling rounds the fastest of anyone would be without a doubt, overpowered.

I play Japan now and my cheeks get penned. If I had to battle you, every weakness you have, I have worse. I just have a faster reload. I think my speed may beat you in a sprint though.

I’d be fine with a 4.5-4.75s reload so you beat every other 5 second reload. But there’s definitely glaring issues if your tank reloads as fast as mine with an armor profile WAY better. Unless you want a to keep the small ready rack with this reload, then fine.

Lmfao gen 1 thermals isn’t a skill issue. Otherwise there’d never have been thermals developed to be better. When it comes to gameplay it’s the same and Having gen 2 is HEAPS better than gen 1. The jump from gen 2 to 3 isn’t so big, but 1-2 is massive. It’s ridiculous to state otherwise. Unless you’d be cool with all your tanks losing their gen 3 thermals and going down to gen 1, because anything else “is a skill issue.”

It’s not really being pedantic lol. There is no British empire, just nations who voluntarily stay attached to the crown, commonwealth. Britain hasn’t been an empire for quite some time.

Even with a 4 second reload the Challies would still get roflstomped by the Type 10.

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In what way? If we’re both hill down, they pen my cheeks, I don’t pen theirs. I don’t have the armor protection on hand cuz servers seem to be down atm for me… but that’s how I see it. It’s like comparing and Abrams and leclerc. The armor profile is clearly lacking for one. Like I said, I’m okay with a 4.5, but there’s no way at should have the same reload, but a better armor profile.

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So don’t aim for the cheeks. There is a hole about 2 feet wide between them that is a near guaranteed one shot.

I also get penned through the cheeks on a semi regular basis.