EMBT 140 ASCALON
That is so sexy…
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oh boy
The main advantage of the Ascalon is that it uses telescopic ammunition. That means that they can make much longer rods for their APFSDS, and the length of the rod directly correlates to the penetration for a set muzzle velocity.
However, these things apparently are so classified even the name of the round is currently classified
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Welp boys, after a month of heavily grinding France almost from scratch (I had grinded till 5.3 years before and then put it aside), I now have French top tier.
Wish me luck since according to everyone here I might need it😬
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Nice, btw you can easily uptier your mephisto, works well even against russian, same for amx 40, amx 32 and amx 30 super harder but still works.
But yeah would advice you to continue spaa line and go up to ito, it’s really easy to do kills with it.
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Okay will do that, thank you. I don’t think I’ll add the AMX-30 Super though since I can’t imagine it performing well with the OFL 105 F1 at 11.7, and after getting the Roland it won’t be effective at researching rank 8
Cannon is so massive. Crazy to think that it weighs the same as an L/44. Is that a 20mm coaxial I spot? And the ARX 30 turret? Also Diamant APS? Very cool.
Who know, the mephisto could have HOT 3s soon TM, meaning they could go through ERA like butter. We’ll see
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Diamant naming is dead. The project and APS is now called Prometheus (which is a good AF name. French really doing some good naming schemes)
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Man… it’s so hard to keep track when it’s so classified. Like why…?
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What I see is :
- A beautiful autoloaded 140mm canon (ASCALON 140) ;
- Decent hull armor thanks to Leopard 2A7 hull ;
- Loads of depression (probably -10° to -15°) ;
- A 20, 25 or 30mm coaxial canon ???
- A placeholder commander sight (I expect PASEO to take its place) ;
- Prometheus APS ;
- A M781 30mm canon on top of the turret for anti-drone capabilities (now called ARX 30 by NEXTER) ;
- Perhaps radar modules in the turret ?
Looks VERY spicy 😍
If anything, it shows how little the Germans are needed in this project
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Feel free to take away the 2A7V hull and well, that’s the decent armour gone :^)
Two can play this game btw:
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ah yes, you are naming it and completly forgettting it again
Besides that genius you are completly ignoring that germany has the lead in the mgcs project development and the embt
And in return france has the lead in the air system the fcas
So yeah… your tank that shows how little germany is needed. Is LEAD by the germans, great job
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Yeah, the German truly are leading the project.
KNDS France making a whole ass new turret, German side slapping their existing 2A7 hull under it, and that suddenly becomes German. Not to mention that the EMBT is actually showcased in the French part of the KNDS exhibition
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its a fact, dunno what you want to fight there
Besides that turret is nice, if france still cant develop a chassis doesnt change much either.
And again germany is the lead for the embt /mgcs project as a whole. That includes the turrets
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knds france did the turret for the EMBT 2024 KNDS deutschland did the one for the Leopard 3.0 its still on the base of a 2A7 wich is still german, they wouldn’t be able to showcase the turret whatsoever if it wasnt by the hull unless they used a leclerc hull, also yeah it was in the french part of the exhibition cuz they wanted to attract the attention of the french clients
ah so i take it you dont want this parts?
Its the same base chassis, which you guys would need for the unmanned part
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France can develop a chassis.
The Leclerc hull, outside of Gaijin’s representation, is a more than decent hull. There are at least 2 reasons you don’t actually see it in those projects :
- German turrets are to heavy, they won’t slap the Leopard turret on a Leclerc hull, that would defeat the point. As a bilateral project, it makes sense to use a leopard chase and French Leclerc derived turret
- France, for economical reasons, stopped producing hulls 20 years ago. Existing hulls are being updated, but they are used for in service vehicles only. As KNDS, which produces Leopard hulls, is now Franco-German, it would make absolutely NO economical sense to restart a production of Leclerc derived hulls.
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but really hasnt, the leclerc hull is not very good and you know pretty well, hence why the Leopard 2 chassis was chosen, still germany did had participation in the EMBT in fact KMW had participation too
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