My man, all Leclercs should be immune to 30mm
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You summed up the issues about the Leclercs, yes. I did it in the past and some others too.
We are at a point where, more than summing up the issues plaguing the Leclercs, we need to find a way to change that.
We need to find a way to force the Devs to wake up and actually start fixing the Leclercs.
A premium Leclerc would probably do the trick, but we have yet to see one … Meanwhile, the USA has 3 premium Abrams …
I shall be a bit more constructive here…
The hull of the Leclerc has two walls of RHA which are 30mm thick:
Then there's what is (most certainly) UHH steel panels which are 35mm thick and offer 70 KE according to the manufacturer
Altogether the sponsons should have 140 KE which aligns with what @vizender says about the French document which is from 1980. Only autocannon around that time was the the French/ British HS 831 (joint venture IIRC) which is the same as on the DCA. The next autocannon to appear - the 2A42 - would not enter service until 1983.
Also there's no evidence of there's no seperating wall between the commander and gunner. The red arrow is pointing to the autoloader door in a SXXI:
But yeah, you’re otherwise right
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Are any of you guys behind this thing?
Did it ever got posted or reported to the devs?
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@HielHortler @Texas_Engineer_Mike
The pictures are linked from the bug report, you can see them here on the right under “screenshots”:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/WIbWMOH8scDT
Not sure if you’re talking about me or the guy I was responding to lol, because I’m well aware well it’s trash, that’s one of the reason I made this thread.
Not gonna lie though, I was expecting that that incredibly small strip of armor would at least work. Turns out it’s fucking bugged.
This part is incorrect. There’s a sort of grate to protect the commander and gunner from the gun and autoloader, but they’re not entirely separated
(timestamp 09:20 and 09:33)
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cheers
I am uploading the PDF version of https://docer.pl/doc/8151ss8 because I am unsure if the website works
19.12.23 Leclerc (All Variants) Incorrect Frontal Armour.rar (223.7 KB)
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It’s not “bugged”, the Devs intentionally made it that way. They modelled the armor on the basis of a pre-production Leclerc used during the Swedish trials. That’s how “guestimates” work for any nation that’s not Russia in this game …
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LOL no. My bug reports for it have been in purgatory for months.
I know all that, but you’re missing what I’m saying. There’s a very small strip of the glacis that’s “reasonably” armored, and 3BM42 absolutely shouldn’t be able to pen it:
And yet, 3BM42 can penetrate it like a hot knife through butter in actual battles, as showed in this video
By the game’s own rules, 3B42 shouldn’t be able to pen that part of the Leclerc, yet it is able to.
The armor isn’t just poorly modeled and implemented compared to the real life Leclerc, it’s honest to god broken.
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Hi @Smin1080p , sorry for bothering, do you know if there will be an official response concerning the (numerous) Leclerc’s reports ? (Such as the one made for the Challenger 2 and M1 Abrams)
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Hello
We do not plan to do a seperate article on every MBT. We covered the most discussed matters in the community feedback for the previous major update.
We will continue to work on reports for all vehicles and answer them directly in each individual case after it has been properly reviewed.
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M1 Abrams: 1600 replies
Leclerc: 2300 replies
“We covered the most discussed matters” except Leclerc cause why not
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I’d be surprised if any other top MBT had more open reports than the Leclerc.
But they won’t give a French TT consultant and they won’t address the Leclerc… Minor Nation Syndrome
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Challenger 2 maybe
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Forget about it its the same boat as Japan,we dont havy big comunities which can cry enough that Gj will hearthem,lkke US and Brits.
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My guess is that they won’t do another copeblog on the Leclercs since they have basically NOTHING of value to argue about it. The Leclercs should have been fixed years ago, and yet, they’re basically the same as the Leclerc S1 was when it was added 4 years ago.
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This is a reckless post.
There’s no knowing what’s coming based on 2 out of the ~42 average vehicles added each update.
I really hope France gets more then another mid-tier spaa. I want to be exited for new updates but every time there is nothing but shit additions (amx10m) or just boring additions (spaa’s) how can Gajin expect any new players to want to play the French tt when it is constantly left to rot every update.
Gajin really has no interest in the tt there isn’t even a pack premium with the removal of the amx30 super and if the leaks are real it will be another patch with no premium. When Gajin doesn’t even care enough to scam players with a 80 dollar pack you know they reallt don’t give a fuck.
off topic but,
How is this possible actually something good from a free crate???
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France completely neglected in this game, I hope the devs are not surprised no one plays this nation, and everything suggests that they hate France.
Very often, when I play my Leclercs, I am the only Frenchman, sometimes by a miracle, we are 2.
And when I play another nation, France is never present.
As a French player, I am very disappointed and it discourages me from playing this game.
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