The Iron dome meta

You could do the same thing. Your “warnings” are also off-topic. If you don’t want the topic to be flooded by off-topic messages, send them a private message. Was this too hard to think? Perhaps for some.

You are not an exception to the very thing you object to.

And you are still carrying on off-topic conversation right here right now. At least, I believe it is ok to have an off-topic discussion. You object to it and yet keep doing it. :)

Nobody said don’t point out. Read again my whole message if you have problems understanding it the first time. You could have sent a private message, right? Well, actually no, you like doing this and that was my original message describing you.

If only some people could have had the capacity to understand it though.

Have you just learned this quote recently? You keep repeating it like a 5yo learned a new word and keep repeating it at the family dinner table :)

ofc, it was a generalised statement - the detectability of them im sure should be much closer for solid solutions with aircraft in game and especially fox3 seekers, i actually nearly wrote that in my comment but didnt mention it cause it was already talked about a few times earlier in the thread.

honeslty, I like to play JAS-39C and send 18 GBU-39 on enemy anti-air, it kinda looks like a massive drone attack. And when he keeps shooting them down, at some points he’ll run out o missiles.
The way you carry 18 of them, light but precise, it really feels like the “economic” war run in contemporary wars, sending low cost attacks.
And the setup for such attacks is easy; get just under mach one 20km away, then send them around 1-2km of altitude, then get down and notch/multipath the incoming missiles.
Sadly, we can’t get the chaff/flare pods with the GBU-39. So sometimes I take one or two Fox-3 for a better air-to-air defense and more conter-measures, and you’ll get 8 GBU-39 but it is less effective.

And even for the Phoenix it’s still way overblown. They’re basically the size of an A-4 on radar. All missile RCS should take a hit of like 70-80% and reasonably should only be intercept-able by the small chance 2 cross paths ~3km apart and proxy fused. For the Phoenix probably around 8km.

And in reality any BVR shot even with proxy fuse it shouldn’t be able to even damage the missile because it’s going too fast. For big fast missiles like the Phoenix they should make weaker radar missiles weakly latch onto them and proxy behind the Phoenix. There’s an account of something similar happening to the Iraqis during the Iran-Iraq War. As the pilots were trying to defend a formation of strike SU-22s and a large strategic bomber, an R-23/24R (or Super 530, the account only describes a light interceptor which at this point in the war could be the Mirage F1s or MiG-23s) was launched at at weakly locked Phoenix that had been launched on the strategic bomber. The missile flew for awhile and then proximity fused, and as soon as the pilots of the interceptor communicated missile intercept, the Phoenix hit the Strategic bomber right behind the cockpit and caused “Rapid Midair Disassembly™”, causing the entire formation to pack it up and head home.

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POV: you dont know what a PD filter does

You don’t know what you’re talking about. So keep these bs for yourself pls

they should just reduce RCS of missiles, It’s annoying when my radar for some reason tracks rockets better than actual jets, like no way R-77-1 is bigger than Su-30 or any other jet in the game for my radar to prioritize it, I am sure that over 50 of my missiles got shot down by mostly F-15GE and Su-30 players this week and it’s really annoying when you have only 6 or 8, people don’t even notch anymore, they just do iron dome tactic

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yes yes, Im the one talking about interception chances without any context

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What’s the source for that “less than 50%” number?

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pilot testimony, not viable.

Please don’t talk to me, I don’t waste my time arguing with clueless arrogants.

Maybe someone with a real life experience, training, studies and not some fancy sources found on wikipedia? Because in the world of wargames everyone thinks to know everything just because they read stuffs on google. I didn’t express my personal opinion, I just share what a guy actually flying a 4.5 gen fighter told me, and if you think to know this kind of stuff better than him, well you’re hopeless.
I didn’t express my personal opinion because I don’t have the knowledge to do that, So I can’t tell if this or that is possible or not, I didn’t serve in the air force, I did on the ground.

you, more than anyone, have demonstrated all the traits of arrogance here

and no proof of what you says too

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Bla bla bla, go bothering someone else

Figured as much…

In other words the source is “trust me bro” and you stated with certainty…

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Im not trying to annoy you, Im just asking what the basis of your statement is, If its just your word its not a fact, its just faith in the end

Ive read thousands of very detailed missile use case documents dating back to the 70s and 80s, I’ve seen numerous missile tests that are easily accessible on any internet forum, including this forum here, which is full of individuals with a good capacity for researching and distributing information, and everything points to these being real capabilities with great precision

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I just said from the very beginning that that was what I was told, I never ever said that is an absolute truth and you must trust me. but I guess you miss basic text comprehension. Considering we’re talking about modern, and still in use, equipment, you cannot find reliable source to state that. Also considering what happened on wt with players posting classified info, military personel are not allowed to share any detailed info about vehicles, armament, equipment and performance. And I’ve already said that in advance. You can believe me or not, personally I don’t give a damn crap.

Really?
What’s this sentence here then?

For those ones talking about “realism” chances to hit a fox-3 with another fox-3 are way below 50% (at least), due to low rcs and missile speed. Whilst it’s possible for a modern radar to both detect and track a missile chances of a positive impact are too low.

You stated it as a fact.

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I’m reporting players who are clearly cheating every single day. I waste so much time watching replays instead of actually playing, just to make this game a little bit better. And guess what? I’m not even getting paid for it.

How do people “clearly cheat” in top tier sim

When you’ve been playing since 2013, you can tell just by watching a replay whether a player is cheating or not. For example? Say you’re on a map like Afghanistan, flying with your radar off through the mountains at the edge of the map; the cheater finds you every single time without ever turning on their radar your RWR doesn’t even make a sound. You look at the scoreboard and see 20 kills, 0 deaths, and it’s the same story for all your teammates.

Then you check the replays: from the moment he takes off until he kills you, he heads straight for you with absolute certainty. He pops out from behind a mountain right on your six after a sharp turn. You do that once, it’s luck; you do it twice, I get suspicious; you do it 10 or 15 times? You’re cheating.

In Ground Battles, you can tell by how they move they react to your every move even when they don’t have line of sight. Besides, you just need to spend some time on YouTube to educate yourself on how to spot cheaters.

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