The Iron dome meta

There’s nothing dangerous about pointing out flawed logic.

Finally an honest argument. You have an opinion, based on vibes.

I do not like “iron dome meta”. But i also don’t think 5th gen fighters will be remotely useless because of it. any stealth plane would be able to launch from an angle or aspect which wouldn’t be able to be countered by this tactic, as they would be able to position themselves without being detected unless in close range.

You could give the F-22 an AIM-9B and it would still dominate.

That’s certainly an opinion.
And as with every opinion that isn’t backed up by anything else beside “i don’t like this”, disposable.

If you don’t like realism, I suggest maybe Ace Combat.

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Can you do this IRL? If so, no reason to remove in simulator.

Definitely not. Massively overrated

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not with any of the missiles that are ingame rn

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I’m exaggerating a bit here of course. My point is that positional play is a more important to secure a kill than missile count.

The irony is palpable

thankfully this is a video game, that takes balance liberties over realism in certain cases. And hopefully devs understand this. Considering your singular point this entire time is “IRIST can” hopefully they have the common sense to understand that, “man that missile inst actually in game yet on any aircraft. so maybe this is a mechanic we should refine.”

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The R-77 and R-73 are also rated for this FYI. I haven’t looked into other ARH or IR missile yet.

And even SARH missiles can do this, as they are mostly reliant on the launch platform anyway.

thats the r-77m seeker

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remind me the range in which the R77 is rated for this

uh yeah, you go play top tier sim with only 6 missiles against any Su-30

It seems like I have offended you by saying “opinions ≠ facts”. At least the report on my mailbox certainly indicates that. :) Looks like I hit a nerve. I do apologize unironically about this.

Watch this and think very carefully about it

You really want sim to just be a fight of who has more missiles rather than actual skill?

Kinematically, further than aircraft since the closure rate is enormous.

Sensor wise, needs to be closer to the target before it can lock it after going active. Which isn’t an issue if the launching aircraft provides DL updates until pitbull. Furthermore if the attacking missile is on a straight-line vector, even INS would suffice to an extent.

I’m not offended. I’m solely against forum topics devolving into childish ad hominems.

Stick to the topic at hand. leave your ego at the door.

Claiming “skill” in gen 4+ is beyond laughable when the aircraft sensors and weapons do most of the work for you.

There’s a very specific reason of why the Rafale was the go-to for every stat padder for a while.

sorry, maybe it was not direct enough. Where can I find the documentation (declassified) that shows the R77 is rated for this task and the ranges. Surely if we don’t like “meta bad please change” then we should be using documentation to back this up right?"

which requires more skill?
iron dome or an actual joust?

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I saw this a looooong time ago in a brochure from Vympel from 1990s, I don’t have it downloaded and would have to trawl the net to find it.

But regardless of that, physics principles don’t change. A brochure won’t change this.