The Gripen E is being artificially held back: We need IRIS-T, Meteor (or Derby!), and ARMs

yes the 14.0 plane needs a next gen missile be for real bruh

14.3 but still a terrible take regardless

when they up it ? i thought it was still same BR as F15E ?

They upped it months ago lmao, 14.3 basically only plays 14.7 in my experience so it was basically dead to me after that change lol

What’s funny is the Gripen E isn’t even the worst 14.3. It has a respectable cm amount, good flight performance, and 9 missiles.

Meanwhile P̶o̶o̶p̶S̶h̶i̶t PoBIT with only 6 missiles, a worse fm, and less cms:

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Let’s not call it’s flight performance good especially after the nerf, but overall I agree. Compared to the other 14.3 it’s solid, it’s more so just a show that the current 14.7 jets are still far stronger than their contemporaries

After nerf the grippy and the j10C are the worst 14.3. And its not even close

We casually ignoring the PoBIT with 6 missiles and heavyweight F-16C frame at 14.3 now I see

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You know the Gripen did get 1000kg weight added to the fm no?

It basically can’t one circle to save its life which means even the heavier F16s will win as the F16 is a two circle monster next to the Gripen.

I agree for distance though Gripper is def still better

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The grippy at slow speed feels like a mirage F1- the barrack probs smokes it now in a dogfight

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When i spaded the grippy E it was the most fun id had in a long time. Had more dogfights than probs months combined playing TT in just a few days

I get what you are saying like but it still matters alot

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Genuinely though, as heavy as the Gripen E is, that thing with 9 missiles and its amount of cms still beats the F-16C PoBIT with 6 missiles in general ARB. It’s not even a contest.

J-10C is in a similar boat. Yes, the 72 cms hold it back quite substantially, and so is the low amount of fuel. But that’s still 10 missiles on an actually better fm. Hell, if you want to larp, you can just bring drop tanks for 2 of your missiles and you’d still be better than the PoBIT.

I’m by no means saying either Gripen or J-10C are “strong” 14.3s with the current F-15C GE and the Su-30SM/MKM, but its def not the “worst.”

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I mean I kinda figured we were on the same page, neither of us refering to Tokerstar, were saying the Gripen was the worst, but it does have flaws and a lot of ones made by gaijin. 14.3 is miserable even if you are playing the best vehicle of the 14.3 crowd, me personally I stopped playing top tier cause unless you’re in the Rafale, EFT, or Su-30SM2 it’s just not fun

One day I’ll finish my grind for the Super Hornet on the US but not until we get some more decomp lmao God I don’t look forward to it

Yeah. 14.7 planes (with the exception of the J-15T) all perform closer to 15.0 or even 15.3 rn. Anything 14.0/14.3 is going to have their skulls caved in until decompression (which might never happen)

Super hornet not as bad as I thought when you have all your amraams but definitely not a good jet considering what you fight

J15T is such a confusing addition honestly with the state it’s in

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ah yes swedish mains are well known for being one of the loudest part of the community, the moment something is wrong with one of sweden vehicles they do make a lot of noises, everyone know that

Id probs do better in 16 vs 16 in the grippy true as missile bus. But when the full lobby can beat you in a dogfight its not for me and is bottom of the pile.

Dogfight is more fun than all the missile spam and I have way better spam buses than the grippy so its another pointless jet due to being snailed

I’d say if anything I’m the most vocal and that’s only because I talk so damn much lmao, though I mainly seem to complain about the SPAA since playing those hunks of trash is worse than lobotomizing myself

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