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if it’s R-27ER then yes
R-27R is better than aim7F. R-27ER is on another level. You can go cold when your missile is near impact and survive the jousting and still get a kill while the aim7F needs a constant lock almost all the way to impact. And the R-27R is faster and more maneuverable too in the ranges that matter.
On top of that you can unlock a target and the R-27R or the ER will guide themselves my inertial guidance and then you can require when the missile is near, or if the target changes direction to correct the interception course.
I use this all the time and get people who think my missile is going for someone else instead of them, because they only get intermittent RWR launch warnings. If you try this with aim7F it goes haywire more often than not.
Agree.
Although you have a much easier time in a 11.3 against a F-16 adf than the F-16 going against 13.3+. Or even 13.0 dare I say. If you have a team the F-16 isn’t dangerous because all their missiles are easily avoidable if you arent overwhelmed in a furball.
Anyway… Decompression is the right thing to do of course.
R27R maximum range is 10km. It’s basically a russian Aim7E2 with how it is used in game. R24R on Mig23 is better in most situation, and is also faster.
I’ve got dozen of 25-30km kill with the 7F. While it’s worse for short range joust, it’s a really strong missile, especially when guided by strong radar like the F-16’s or the F-18’s (on Harriers and F20).
Just another BR extension
idk what is this r27r vs aim7F debate, the debate should be aim7F vs matra 530D that sits on a better airframe with a better kit at a lower br than the f-20 (mirage 2000 cs5/cs4)
Super 530D is worse than the 7F despite the fact it should be better
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No.
No…? That’s not how IOG works.
No…
Only with the limitations of IOG… which are easy to defeat if the guy pays attention.
What sort of limitations are on them?
I’ve found doing that with the ER to be relatively reliable. If someone my missile is going for dies, I just relock someone else and it often hits.
The obvious ones? It goes off your last known trajectory which you can change in the meantime…
That’s a gross exaggeration. It will go much further and you can’t even compare the aim7e2 to it. Maybe you mean the optimal range is under 10km? That would make more sense.
Well… That’s how gaijin implemented it. You can absolutely go cold or turn off the radar a couple of seconds before impact and have a high probability of a direct hit.
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I’m aware, what I’m saying is that if the target changes direction AT ALL after you lose lock (even if they just gain or lose speed a lot and keep going the same direction) the missile will miss.
no lol, 10km in a head on is already testing the range heavily at sea level. Past that it’s easy to avoid by kinetics. R-27R seems to be very similar to 7e2 in range and both are worse than 7f/m
More often than not they don’t have enough time.
Even yesterday I shot an aim7f with the f-16aj at about 10km where I was higher and faster while shooting and maintaining a lock while cranking against an Iranian F-14 that was lower, slower, shot a r27R 1 second later and didn’t defend and we still traded.