I just made a report for the F-111F and ALR-62I. At the least the ALR-2002 should be similar to the 62I, so I suggested that as well, but idk how the devs will handle that.
Funnily enough, the F-111A we have in game seems to be a modernized one, as it also includes the compass sail receiver which should not be present with the APS-109 RWR, but eh idk… Gaijin has been always a bit inconsistent with in game models and actual intended models, so I suppose it is rather a modelling error, similar I could go on about the F-16 RWRs…
It’s pretty funny that the documentation on Soviet/Russian equipment often remains classified longer than that of Western counterparts. That doesn’t stop GJ from making things up in the game, giving Soviet equipment and weapons capabilities they never had in real life.
Maybe I’m missing something, but I’ve never seen this kind of interface on other planes that lack targeting pods. As for other examples — they’ve been brought up on this forum multiple times. The first things that come to mind: the Kh-29T in real life cannot engage moving targets, neither can Soviet KAB bombs; Soviet ERA can’t stop a shell hitting it at a perpendicular angle; Kontakt-5 can’t withstand modern APFSDS rounds designed to defeat Soviet reactive armor; the Yak-28 didn’t carry flares; the Yak-141 never carried any weapons in reality; the Su-27SM has never seen R-77 missiles under its wings; tank autoloaders, mostly found in the Soviet tech tree, were simply not modeled as modules and couldn’t be damaged; the Su-24 was immediately given a ground radar in the game, which for some reason Western aircraft lack, and so on.
But when it comes to Western equipment, there seem to be all sorts of restrictions. The tiniest inconveniences are meticulously implemented, even when they could be ignored for gameplay purposes. Planes lack their primary weapons; tanks have armor bugs that the community has literally measured with tape, hoping for a fix; bug reports are closed because the documents are classified, and so on.
But many of those “classified” documents are available on public websites or even on ebay. Some are for free, some are paid.
Take a look at the avialogs.com for example.
Do you mean secret stuff like the Kh-38 and other modern missiles in the game? Or are you talking about modern tanks, air defense systems, and so on? Oh man, but they’re already in the game! Let’s pray together that GJ doesn’t run into trouble because of these secret things. Hang in there, GJ, we’re with you!
But I’m glad to see that you’re not disputing the other examples and generally agree that GJ is biased and tries to make Russian equipment look better than it really is.
No, I just hate how much “Russian bias” is parroted by the community when it does not exist in any meaningful way. There is no Russian bias, just confirmation bias (and bias towards $$$). A person can be both right on some topics, and wrong on others.
@Flogger_cbs accusing War Thunder critics of being on Gaijin’s payroll, or being other malicious acts.
I defend most critics on the forum and support their posts; this is well known that I’ve supported hundreds of critics, and thousands of criticisms of War Thunder on top of having my own hundred+ criticisms of War Thunder.
Weird of you to imply that M1A2 SEP is Russian.
Or Gripen, F-15C, Strv 122, etc.
Also for something to be a criticism it has to be true. Lies, disinformation, and/or misinformation is not criticism.
Creating a strawman to argue against is not criticism.
“I’m arguing against Gaijin’s overt actions that is clearly American bias.” No you’re not, your post is creating a strawman and misinformation.
Replace American with any other tech tree, in your case it’s Soviet.
Completely ignore that the Su-27SM is the 2nd worst 13.7 aircraft in the game currently [J-11A is the worst].
Or how it took years after Strv 122 was added for the Soviets to get their T-90M and Germans to get their 2A7V.
This is also an F-111F topic about its radar, which as my initial post states: The F-111F currently has a placeholder radar, obviously because its weapons are not reliant on it. The correct one should be added when it’s finished.
If you want to call it paranoia… then it’s paranoia. I am not going to accuse you of that personally.
I am just going to say your post’s assumptions about others are dangerous to make as it’ll cause undue stress. It’s better to start with thinking the other person’s sincere and of sound mind at all times, especially when we disagree.
I am on your side no matter what dumb minor disagreements we have on some topics.
All I can do is apologize for any harm I seem to have caused you and be a better man for tomorrow.
The radar the SU-24SM2 has in-game is capable of tracking stationary ground targets being a first in-game which helps with detection and destruction of ground units - already a thing in-game and doesn’t require a “major update”.
The F-111F/C should receive their historical radar without negotiation as soon as possible, new vehicles shouldn’t receive placeholders unless there is a reasonable understanding behind it, this doesn’t apply for the F-111F/C.
Oh yeah, the radar the SU-24SM2 has in-game is also ground only so don’t try to make a bullsh*t reason with me
Dude, I think I just gave you examples of this Russian bias
No such thing as Russian bias coming from a British/Chinese main, just poor decision making which SHOULD be pointed out - I’d prefer to play Sweden top tier however or Germany (Ground RB).
@TPS_Hydra
It’s not the first in-game, AH-64D is the first in-game done years ago, and the way Su-24’s placeholder radar does it is inaccurate to how it’s supposed to occur. Inaccurate in a direction you may call “artificial nerf” [despite it not being a nerf, nor artificial].
Su-24M’s radar is a placeholder radar just like F-111F’s radar. Neither have weapons that can be used with the radars. Su-24M’s radar is a copy-paste of the helicopter radars currently.
These are 2 very different kinds of aircraft. Or do you not know what the difference is between a Heli and a Jet. Especially within the context of War Thunder?
We were denied MAWS on the Harrier Gr7 for an entire year because “they did not model MAWS on fixed-wing aircraft” despite being present in game on Helis for a while before that. gaijin treats them as 2 entirely different vehicle types. Almost as different as tanks and planes
