As you can see here: https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Kw7IWwSmRDZY
During the last dev server someone tried to bug report this to correct it, however the flight manual for the F-111F that they used is a classified source, leading to the bug reports rejection.
Currently:
The F-111F uses the AN/APQ-159 radar that was used near exclusively on the F-5E. It was likely added as a temporary placeholder, yet the correct radar (The AN/APQ-144 Multimode Radar) still hasn’t been added to it ingame. It should feature the Texas Instrument’s AN/APQ-144 with features such as:
Standard Seach, Search ACM/WVR, PD search, PD ACM/WVR, PD HDN, TWS, TWS PD, Ground search, Ground TWS. The Pave-Tack pod is also able to slave to the Radar, but I have no information that specifies if it only slaves to Ground Radar modes, or all modes. (These are just guess-timations of mine at the moment given the era it was created/used in.)
Additionally it also uses the F-111A’s AN/APS-109 RWR as a placeholder, when it should be using the later AN/ALR-62 RWR (A Digital RWR, and much more advanced RWR system overall at that) with detection between C-J bands and target identification.
At the BR this aircraft is found at, a Radar to spot target, and lock and designate ground targets is much needed. It’s something it had IRL and is lacking ingame, leading to it being less powerful. The Pave Tack targeting pod is said to be able to slave to the radar for locking ground targets, however with the F-5Es radar being the one present ingame, this capability is absent from the aircraft.
A placeholder radar should have been fixed before the live server came…
@BasherBenDawg8
Radars are a good way to get spotted. I don’t use a radar at all in air RB, and I rarely use one in air sim especially for a fighter-bomber.
It doesn’t have radar missiles so it doesn’t matter.
Yep, the situational awareness you gain in a ground attack aircraft from a radar, perticularly in Sim, is something that cant be understated. Its awesome in the Buc S2B to be able to avoid the enemy team, and fight back if you have to (Tornado Gr1 is really limited in its defensive capabilities because it cant ID at longer ranges)
I do wonder if the F-111s radar is being delayed for its A2G ability. Su-24 now has an A2G radar and its rather unfair thats a Soviet exclusive at the moment
No, you said aircraft that dont need a radar, just get a placeholder radar instead of their own.
Though quite frankly A2A aircraft get placeholder radars more often than not. In recent history in the British TT, Sea Harrier FRS1 and Gripen both had placeholder radars at launch and did so for months (technically the Gripen still does) and the Tornado F3 had an extremely weak radar for the first 3 months of its life, that I essentially consider a placeholder it was that bad.
Yeah… More and more, aircraft are being added with major placeholder parts. Still waiting for the FA2 to get its own RWR, they worked on it a little last update by giving it the ability to ID ground radars, which is highly important in an aircraft with very limited ground attack abilities. But cant ID aircraft yet.
Grab Webster’s English dictionary and lookup “need” and “placeholder”.
Need; in this context meaning weapons require the radar to function. F-111 doesn’t have those.
Placeholder, temporary.
Of course they should get their radars when they’re finished.
@ex3333
According to your flat out disinformation, all radars in WT don’t exist.
That’s blatantly false.
If the F-111s native radar also has the ability to assist in ground attack, then I would consider that a need.
Also the F-5E radar does not have IFF. This serverly harms the ability of the F-111 to ID targets within Sim at meaningful ranges and limits the effectiveness of having all-aspect IR missiles as using them against something coming straight at you is highly risky.
I dont know much about the F-111s radar strength, but if its half decent and able to see out quite well. Then it allows you to plan and approach ground targets within sim whilst avoiding the enemy team.
That is 3 “needs” for the F-111 to have its placeholder radar fixed ASAP.
But quite frankly. Placeholder RWRs, Radars, MAWS, HUDs and other such systems are becoming WAY too comon and take WAY too long to fix. If they ever do. Its getting really frustrating.
Fair enough, however due to the fact the F-111F currently lacks a digital RWR, when there’s only a few players left in a match, and they’re location is unknown, your Radar is your best friend. Or you just track down every RWR ping slowly and try to pinpoint from there. Really helpful late game.
The flight manual which they assumed classified was based on assumptions, Im pretty sure all documents in Avialog are declassified or how else are they not caught by FBI?
lol No they don’t [referring to the functional part]. It’s literally the Apache’s air to ground mode, which isn’t anywhere close to usable on jets at this time. They also don’t have weapon systems to use that radar with.
