The F-111F Radar/RWR Still Placeholders

I’m already aware of tanks or a tank and couple helicopters already having it, what I meant was fixed winged aircraft.

Honestly, my issue is the lack of utility for the radars on aircraft like the F-111. Currently, the only real use for radar in-game is for radar-guided weaponry and really nothing else. EEGS is nice but usually I can aim without it, and turning my radar off also benefits me by not pinging my enemy’s RWR. This completely disregards other functionalities such as GMR (ground mapping radar) and TFR (terrain following radar), both of which the F-111 has had since its inception. GMR would be great to have in general since there are maps at high tier that have bad terrain and terrible cloud cover (looking at you, Mysterious Valley), and many aircraft that had it IRL (and in-game by extension) lack the weaponry to even have a reason to turn radar on for any other reason.

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@AlvisWisla @Morvran

what are you two even arguing about? Both of you agree that the F111 should get it’s accurate radar so why argue?

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Waiting for the answer from Departament of US Air Force about 1995 Flight Manuał declassification, I have made another bug report about F-111F radar.
This time with AN/APQ-144 radar.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/GiPQ2tlYP4S7?comment=a7z4mGWpyN4o0UEZ8j6jPqYY

There is a different between declassification and export restrictions. A manual can be totally fine for a US citizen to possess, but to give it to a non US entity would break the law.

We cannot accept manuals with export restrictions for use on bug reports. If a FOIA is submitted by the user to the appropriate US body that confirms the document doesn’t have any export restrictions we can ofcourse then use that document.

Since avialogs.com is from Canada, doesn’ this law also apply to them?

I believe recent A-7D RWR fix used an export restricted document, although it wasn’t the only document. Is there any rule about older (like x years old) documents that are generally considered public now, or if the airframe is retired?

Regardless, I think I found enough public sources for the RWR fix for the F-111F (and maybe F-111C as well). Could you perhaps take a look at the report and see if everything is in order? Not sure if the developers are heart set on insisting ALR-2002 for the F-111C though, in that case I don’t have anything. F-111C did also mount ALR-62I before the (possible) upgrade to ALR-2002 though.

Rules can be found here:

I’ll check it out after work.

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@CalvinAz forwarded :)

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Hi, could you also take a look at the radar report?

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/GiPQ2tlYP4S7?comment=a7z4mGWpyN4o0UEZ8j6jPqYY

Post updated to include active bug reports, thank you to @CalvinAz for the RWR bug report and @superbuster11 for the Radar bug report. Fingers crossed we’ll end up seeing these changes sooner than later…

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I know it’s not relevant to the thread title, but the countermeasure amount between the F-111F and C is bugging me and could use support, considering the previous report a month ago was ignored

That’s not a bug.
In-fact, you reminded me that I should close my other reports.
8x buckets.
30 standard caliber = 240 countermeasures total.
15 = 60 total.
Mix = x amount, in F-111F’s case it’s 180 as it should be.

If you want to be so pedantic, neither are the RWR and radar reports, because that’s not a bug, and at least half of the reports on that website aren’t bug reports, but historical reports or whatever you want to call it.

It isn’t a historical report either.
Until we have control over which flare buckets we use, it’s Gaijin’s choice of which ones to use in aircraft with universal flare buckets.

180 is correct. 4x 15 large, and 4x 30 standard.
240 is correct. 8x 30 standard.

It still isn’t correct because both of them have the same model and use the same countermeasure dispensers, so either both F-111s should have an option between large+normal or normal only OR they should be changed to either of those two options.

F-111 isnt alone on that. A lot of aircraft could use either LCM or CMs but in game they have one or the other. There is certainly times where Id like to pick between the 2.

Right now a visual texture is for the entire aircraft.
There is no countermeasure-only textures right now.
So the suggestion you would make is for them to change how vehicles are textured, and for countermeasures to have texture options that are automatically chosen depending on the choices you make.
Either way, it’s not an issue with the countermeasures itself.

Right now you can put flares in AN/ALE-40’s chaff tubes.

True, but it’s not like the US F-4E has large+normal countermeasures while the F-4F has normal countermeasures only. There is no reason why the F-111s should have a different arrangement.

Yep, that is a strange choice and considering the other difference between the F-111C and F-111F (6 vs 4 Aim-9Ls for example) It seems to just complicate BR placement for them even further.