If anyone cites Yak-141 in any discussion not related to Yak-141, use this against them:
Aircraft that used the standard Yak-141 later used:
Ho 229
Arado 234 C-3
XP-50
Swift F7
Kikka
J7W1
VB 10-02
SO8000 Narval
The oldest of these aircraft “started” the standard for unfinished prototypes.
Yak-141 is not special.
Yak-141 is just another aircraft added to this list.
If you have more aircraft to add prior to Yak-141’s addition that isn’t present here, by all means post it.
Ho-229: Engines it has in-game were never fitted. When first added to the game, it had its real engines and it was so bad it was barely flyable
Arado C3: probably never fitted with bombs, if any were ever airworthy they were never used in combat
XP-50: prototype never fitted with guns
Swift F7: no evidence it was ever fitted with guns
Kikka: never fitted with guns, engines on the real porotypes were a much weaker than what is in-game
J7W1: prototypes not fitted with guns
SO8000: never fitted with guns
As far as I am aware, the VB 10-02 and G56 did exist as they are portrayed in-game, though they never entered service
Yak-141 - Depending on the prototype that Gaijin modeled, it may or may not have had its radar, but all of the prototypes lacked some avionics and fire control equipment, IRST, and their weapons.
Ho 229 - Had all of its instrumentation, afaik, only missing armament (although a prototype with armament was in construction by the end of WWII).
Arado 234 C-3 - Same deal as the Ho 229, had everything except armament
XP-50 - Missing armament.
Swift F7 - Unless I’m getting this wrong, this were fully functional and equipped with missiles and its guns.
Kikka - Missing armament.
J7W1 - Missing armament.
VB 10-02 - Pretty sure these were also perfectly functional.
SO8000 Narval - The first prototype seems to have had its armament, although I’m not sure if it featured its radar.
G.56 - Unsure if the prototypes actually got their armament.
So in all, the Swift F7 and VB 10-02 are definitely more historically sound, with all of the rest of the planes mentioned technically being more historically sound due to having all of their instrumentation and/or armament.
It’s not just that it ‘weren’t armed’. It lacked radar, IRST, a fire control system, and missiles. Now, with the decompression of BRs, this paper aircraft received a lower BR alongside the MiG-29 and faces opponents who are inferior to it.
Most Japanese aircrafts are unrealistic in a way or another, simply cause GAIJNG need a bit more variation and the number of prototypes in the line is so huge that most nations need a lot of them to complete lines.
The special treatment it received is the fact that it is in regular tech tree. Unlike the F-20 Tigershark which Gaijin decided to block behind a 70$ paywall.
Yak-141 didn’t get a lower BR its BR is the equivalent of 12.0, identical to last time. And since you consider Swift, VB 10-02, Kikka, J7W1, SO8000, G56, XP50, Ho 229, Arado 234 C-3 all to all be paper aircraft, nothing you say is valid.
@Lucius_47
Not special treatment, read the rest of the list.
Actually, I have no issues with paper planes—after all, this game isn’t great as a simulator anyway. Its predecessor, IL-2 Sturmovik, had an entire ‘1946’ expansion with paper planes. The problem with this plane is that its overpowered missile flies against older planes and breaks the balance.
Well, no such OP aircraft exists in the list.
Yak-141 has never been OP as it’s always been at the same BR as superior aircraft.
There are even superior aircraft below its BR, and this has always been the case.
Phantoms, I can only say skill issue and Tomcats are too used to spamming missiles without opposition, US win rate and all nations with Phantoms have this issue so not Yak problem, the stupid premiums are the problem.