This is just how much i asume the thing weighs and is probably not ture
the DSU-15/B AOTD(the one on the 9l which is based on the one on the XAIM-4H) weighs around 9lb ADA070975.pdf page 31 (it seems i forgot to note that the source for the aim-9 claim was this link Robert Talley – SBRC-SBRS History)
this is just asuming they used the warhead on the aim-4G
which weighed 2.25 lb more than the on the AIM-4D
so it would weigh in at around 145.25 lb pre launch and 114.25 lb at burnout
the only other figure for how much this thing weighs (160lb from an illustrated guide to modern airborne missiles) is likely false since it also gets the guidance wrong
I updated the stats on the missiles to represent their turning abilities at sea level as opposed to pure maximum which is rarely reached
Some graphs just dont show peak performance at sea level however so some are educated guesses
Would anyone be able to figure out the maximum Fin aoa and general max aoa for the missiles?
9 degrees for the aim-26 at sea level, when launched at maximum speed. Keep in mind that the FCS adjusts the control surface deflection according to the launch parameters to make sure the missile won’t exceed it’s g-limits in flight, which in warthunder is modelled as an actual g-limiter in the missile.
So the absolute maximum fin AoA is 29º / general max aoa is anybody’s guess, but note that the “fin AoA” parameter in warthunder is used to tweak the turn radius of the missile, rather than representing the actual simulation of the fin AoA it should have.
Well, given that they added thrust variation with altitude for the phoenix i took the trouble of compiling the speed and time information that’s in the graphs and the tables from the aim-4f SMC into a straightforward table:
As expected, there is a noticeable thrust increase with altitude, but it’s never particularly fast compared to other missiles. Still much better than the ingame one at 40000 feet, even within the limits of the comparison tool:
Most of the primary source documents i have just refrence names of people who worked on it. the only primary source that really says anything about the missile is Robert Talley’s report Robert Talley – SBRC-SBRS History which doesn’t say much about it other than confirming the larger warhead, proxy fuze being located at the rear of the missile, solid state electronics, and the fact that the dimensions stayed the same which were also confirmed by the photo of the missile itself
Hopefully it’s just because they didn’t have the time to make unique models for the AIM-4A/C/D rather than actual laziness.
The F-102 shown in the trailer is clearly the later model with case xx wings and IRST, so the question remains if they are just gonna duplicate it for the Greek (and turkish?) subtree, if if they are gonna also model the earlier case x wing without irst.
it seems that they may be modelling the proper falcons after all in the backend right now, RB28 appeared as well, hopefully we’ll see the models in the CDK soon
Gentlemen, I am VERY pleased to present these clips to you, @majorlier meshed together the FM file for the AIM-4D with the model from the RB28 (which appears to just be an american AIM-4D model) and allowed me to catch these clips of what the AIM-4D might look like if it is added to the 102 this patch. I myself am EXTREMELY pleased to see the increase in low speed acceleration and reach, and am very excited to hear what you all have to say! (Of course, the performance you see here can absolutely be subject to change.)
