The real question, is why are we allowing for Teamkilling in the first place? You can’t kill other friendly tanks in Ground RB, so why should you be able to in air?
How do you automatically determine whether or not a teamkill was intentional? People can and do fly in front of their teammates guns in attempt to get a kill. How about missiles? How do you determine whether or not the missile was intended for a teammate?
Why are we worried about penalties for TKing when the solution is right in front of us? Just disable it.
Sometimes happen when people fired their guns during take off, they do a cosmetic damage but just that, but after you gear is off ground any damaged done to you can be deadly, the players knows and they keep doing it, …so it’s intentionally
Coming out of 2 matches in a row with multiple teamkills - i am tired that match results in prop tier games tend to depend more and more to the random factor how many players (with severe disorders) on which side are going for friendlies; in the majority of cases the outcome of games are massively altered.
The last match was a prime example - i played 1 vs 3 after 9 minutes on Frontline Mozdok. The enemy had a ticket disadvantage, but a T-18B (57mm), an ITP with a 37mm and a Spit Mk IX.
All they had to do was to kill a few tanks, stick together and keep me busy. But the T-18B killed his squadmate in a Spit and got kicked as this was his second teamkill, and now the poor guy in an ITP had the option trying to outclimb me or to kill ground and get jumped; he went for ground and got killed.
This was a totally undeserved win - just due to the enemy team killer. This simply de-validates every fair and square victory. If you watch the replay right from the start of the match with the option 2 (player view) you see that the team kills of the T-18B were no accident; they were fully intended.
How shall we enjoy a game if such behaviour is not severely punished?
P-47 fired at some team mate at spawn, attacked me at 0:57 and 1:18, attacked another player at 1:39 and 1:45, attacked a FOURTH player at 2:16, so I finally stopped him at 2:24 for good.
Teamkillers are cowards who do not have the spine to attack enemies who shoot back, but instead shoot friendlies in the back.
And yes, with three fighters (2 dead victims, and the TK’er himself) out of the picture, the match was a lost cause. This TK has to incur MUCH MORE SEVERE penalties.
And friendly killing the TK’er should not be punished in my eyes.
I agree, as I said before (which was yeeted from the thread) there are times when there is an excuse.
People also fly in front of a firing aircraft, missiles go rogue and IFF doesn’t always work.
It’s one thing to kick people from a game automatically but there should be no automatic ban for TKs based on numbers alone - a human needs to review and the player needs an option for appeal.
If you have 2 minutes time: Check this replay - a fully intended teamkill after 6:10 min without any provocation or reason.
The teamkilling Yak-3 and his squadded 109 mate openly admitted griefing “we don’t want to interfere in our trolling” in the chat - so we have coordinated griefing.
Of course we lost this match - as the teamkilling Yak-3 and his retarded 109 mate are absolute trash pilots…
I kindly ask you to check out if you can do something on top of your auto-ban system. Btw - i can’t even block / ignore these scumbags as i have already 100 players on this “ignore list” - i can not remember random gamertags - pls increase the number to 200. Thx in advance!
Got another ugly TK. I wasn’t the victim … GRB
The perpetrator simply flew towards an allied aircraft taking off and shot it down. He didn’t even have a chance to defend himself.
Justification. He was Russian.
I just replied that these stupid team kills would ruin the match. He just said “stupid Russian” again, “they’re not even people”.
If it were up to me, such comments would result in a perma-ban.
Teamkill ok … but the dehumanisation as a justification is simply disgusting.
Might be worth to report unsportsmanship behavior via server replay…but the replay just shows a match in which you were killed by an enemy - wrong link…
It’s not like you were of any use to your team, flying a goddam F4U with bombs strapped on it. So at least your team’s chances of winning basically remained the sane.
Guys like Juno or No_Name from Noobs will TK you for 2 reasons:
just because
if you are good, to remove obstacle in achieving high kill count.
Of course they are not punished for it in any way.
And since they almost always fly in a squad, they can spread the teamkills among 3-4 guys, so basically they can kill every 1.9+ KPB guy they encounter on their team all day every day and never face any consequences.
This creates a natural reaction of “shoot on sight” on my part, because I’m not going to have any fun anyway, I have a timer on my head, once they realise I may be a threat to their score, so I can as well defend myself succesfully and cancel their fun.
WT has by far the most toxic community I’ve ever encountered.
On top of that - killstealing is rampant and I can’t even tell what counts as kill nowadays anyway - severe damage? Then why are some planes I “severly damaged” as in shot to pieces, that were then “finished off” not counting as my kills and a wreck I “finished off” cause it literally flew into my sights in a straight line down (so I did not even realise it’s ded) for some reason is…
Anyway, this creates frustration. Which makes monkeys aggressive.
But I rather face some primal, primitive aggression than “elite WT players” who are the biggest tailpipeholes in the business.
Fully agree - and with the rest of your post, ofc, too.
Imho the main issue here, is that the auto-ban threshold way too low - tk fine is a joke for those “strategic” team killers.
Imho this new mechanic makes the job for malicious kill stealers even easier.
The average pilot might turn away as he is happy to get the 80% score and give guys optimizing their stats get (at least imho) way more opportunities for kill steals - because the majority of damage now classified as “severe damage” was a clean kill in the past…
I use 500 meters convergence on my B7A2 - somehow ideal to cut off both wings of a B-25 with my standard attack from direct above. It is amazing to see every few matches 2-4 team mates to dive after burning planes without wings…
