This just about sums up the game, it is broken almost beyond fixing and needs tearing down and starting again.
Making the victim go through hoops just to get the correct outcome is reprehensible in the least, not sure if you did get banned because of the nebulous/secret figure that triggers the punishment, whilst the perpetrator gets to play days or months with no consequences to his rule breaking actions is once again a failure by the company.
I expect for you to get any outcome from this event involves hours of e-mailing, sending replays and awaiting replies for more information as the process is stalled, possibly hoping for you to give up and not bother, a standard practice for many complaint procedures in many companies. Make it as difficult, slow and time consuming as possible so nobody bothers.
Coupled to his people wonder why players do not care, play stupidly and often detrimentally to their teams success and one death leave, what is the point whilst this goes on and many other flaws and problems that are rife and endemic in the game.
I hope you did not get any sort of ban, as I expect this is something you never do and this was an anomaly perpetrated by a complete skeleton warrior.
I was never banned for team killing because i assess this as detrimental for the game. I do admit that i would have killed him if i would have been aware of his attempt way earlier, but my plane was literally scrap after his attack, so no way to retaliate.
I am very confident that i won’t face a temp ban as i reported this behaviour via the server replay site, the evidence speaks for itself.
Just a game in SB
Ban it all, maybe then they will learn.
THe safest thing to do if attacked by a team mate is crash into the ground. That way, they get the TK against them and you don’t risk the collision triggering a TK for you. (I know, this shouldn’t be necessary)
I apparently must have killed another flyer while dropping a bomb in GRB which is odd because you can’t kill a friendly tank in GRB. I don’t know why they have one physics for ground vehicles and another for planes. I dont know why they even have the friendly fire thing in GRB/ARB. It does nothing but cause upset in the game.It’s an unrealistic game and friendly fire does nothing to make it any more fun.
A new team kill related thread:
https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/279818012689740560
Ok can someone please tell me how the foook is radar missile R-24R locked on enemy, waited to lock fully (2 circle) nooone around just goes to friendly???
Please it starts at 3:38.043
Like it hase no sense at all, its not IR missile… like Im tired of this BS game and getting punished for it.
Another team kill thread:
For me it looks like the warning with temp bans was not enough.
At prop BRs those runway teamkills are happening as often as before this ban event…
I did not realise there was a thread about this, pinned, at that!
So, just in case my topic gets deleted (which most likely will) for being redundant, I will just post it here;
I come across these on a weekly basis. This issue has existed ever since War Thunder’s conception and it still persists.
I wonder if there’s anything that could be done to solve this issue.
https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/285066986713424847?public_key=UOWlwLc8M1wOUKRPSEy9
I also agree with you.
It is interesting to see how widespread TKing is, how much of an issue and concern it is… yet after so many years it appears as if not enough measures have been taken against these individuals. I really hope the situation is improved and they pay the consequences they deserve one day.
Accidentally teamkilling once in a while is one thing.
Hell, even purposefully teamkilling trolls or someone who is disturbing you in isolated cases can be something.
But mass-TKing on the airfield indiscriminately regularly is straight up and simply inexcusable.
I used the server replay site for a proper report.
Actually i was wondering how he was able to kill 3 guys; in the past they got immediately kicked after 2 team kills (or just even one and those “players” inflicted serious damage to another guy).
Auto kick happened with a 5 second delay, rather unusual. I hope this was just a technical bug and not evidence that gaijin increased the auto-kick treshold to 3 team kills.
Regarding the player: Sad story, bought a hell of USSR/RU premiums and sucks at the game - obviously frustration. But imho also evidence that it makes no sense to sell high tier premium hardware to rookies…
what Traktorius said, there is no Amount of Action= Amount of Punishment statement.
now what if you were going for a base, didn’t notice someone else, and accidently BOMB THEM when the bomb lands, is that a teamkill?
I appreciate it! Sometimes I feel like individual, isolated reports never go anywhere on their own- instead, it takes larger amounts of reports to be noticed, so really appreciate it ^^
It’s also funny- as you pointed out, many of the airfield mass-TKers often have a large bunch of negative stat Premiums, it’s an interesting pattern indeed.
So Im just curious what should be a punishment for this player
it starts at 4:40
https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/287925613862337908
I think 3 month ban of playing the game and next time hedo this is perma ban.
Toughts?
It actually started earlier - you evaded a missile from him before that.
I mean it is classical griefing - team killing you is just a tool to maximize his mission score. Later he used all chat and asked “PvE ?” so it fits together. 2 kills plus a severe ~ 2.300 points mission score. We have a grinding event running.
Regarding punishments:
Imho you have to distinguish between what seems to be adequate from a game play / player perspective - and what gaijin wants to do with their paying customers.
If you check his first 20 vehicles: Basically all high tier premiums. So a hell of money invested and still eager to play. What would you do if you were gaijin?
Perma ban him 10 days ago first time when I reported this and put it on their site they will not tolerate this behaviour.
Who cares about one player andf him having all premiums? you think he is enough for whole Gajin staff and their paychecks? Common…
Also since they punished sooo many players last time I expect them to be consistent and perma ban these players.
I dont care if its event…Event is also for me… I dont care about aanything regarding this dude, if rules are FOR EVERYONE then everyone should play by them and be punished adequately
P.s I have alos premiums and probabbly are more valuable money wise for this game because I can buy out anything I want and not even feel it… so you think I should also be able to TK people and not be punished??? WTF???
I am not sure if this is just a misunderstanding or not.
The fact that I created this thread and posted 92 times in it should give you more than an indicator that i do not support anything which does not eliminate the threat of getting team killed or anybody who commits team killing.
As your first post was rather emotional i tried to align your expectation level with economic aspects which might be considered from gajin’s pov. If you read my reply with this perspective again, it should be clear than your conclusion is not correct.
It looks like that you expect too much too fast…
oh so what do you think his punishment should be???
Again my man dont you insinuate that playwers that pay are somehow special???
Again I pay also and I also got banned for TK on last wave… So whatsyour point?
There should not be any perma bans for TK, 1-4 weeks only.
Depends. For deliberate ones (Ex. Consistently shooting allies down on takeoff) there should, but not for accidental ones.