Tanks Sitting Back Taking Potshots Doesn't Really Help The "TEAM"

Another abismal day playing alongside pot shotting kids. At night time, it’s the toxic US kids invading and poluting the EU servers after midnight, when all our kids are in bed here. What makes me laugh is that when you winge at players sitting back, they start insulting you like they always know best.

ONLY 4 WINS IN MY LAST 12 GAMES! It’s the gameplay that players have no choice but to put up with that causes toxicity within the game.

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Another day of playing, and now it’s even worse. Only 2 wins but 10 losses. It’s getting beyond a joke and not fun anymore. This game is being destroyed from the inside.

Every single loss, I was watching my so called team mates hang back pot shotting. Of course, because they refused to move, the enemy homed in and killed them.

Pot shotting is loser gameplay. Not just my opinnion, I have seen enough games being lost BECAUSE of it.

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What BR are you playing?

And how good are you doing in those matches?

All my tanks are at rank4, just about to break into Rank 5 with the UK, US, Germany and Israel.

I normaly rush forward (not up to the zone) to the nearest bit of cover close to the zone so I can carefully advance to try to take the zone. I never sit back taking pot shots, I’m not a coward, it’s not my style. I don’t care one iota about my K/D ratio. Having 10 kills means bugger all if you still LOSE. There are a couple of reasons I have observed on many occasions that cause the losses.

  1. Players sit back taking pot shots, but whats worse is that once they’ve fired, they don’t move so the enemy home in, and kill them. That makes them sit even further back, away from the zones we are supposed to be taking. They are now so far away that buildings and slight hills are in the way so now they can’t even cover those of us that are trying to win by taking zones because they can’t even see us from under the rock they found to hide behind. I normally find “pot shotters” end up being 7/10 times base locked and spawn killed.

  2. This one is just as important for tactics. It amazes me how many players at rank 4 “STILL” have no idea what light tanks are for. They have no idea why they are light and fast with not alot of armour. Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of players who DO know how to use a light tank, but given how many supposed tens of thousands of players that play every day, Players with the know-how are still in the minority.

Light tanks are for reconaissance. They can whiz ahead using cover to scout and spot enemies. They have a gun so they can defend themselves to a certain point with the paper thin armour, but it’s the speed that can get them out of trouble as quick as they got in to trouble. Without the spotting, enemies can dissapeare on the map just as quick as they appeared… BUT… if they are scouted and spotted for the team, they can no longer try creeping up on the team and flank and kill because they stay on the map to be seen, no matter where they try to hide, they can’t get away. Always know where the enemy is so they don’t get an advantage. It’s not complicated rocket science, can’t they see the “Scout button” on the bottom of the screen?

I’ve lost count of how many times i’ve been surprised and out numbered because 2 or 3 tanks come round the corner out of nowhere. I might take out one of them but the others just obliterate me, sometimes i don’t even get to fire. This is despite at least 1 or 2, or more, light tanks on the team. They refuse to spot for the team. If you have a whinge at the team, you get childish comments thrown saying “get better with your 1 kill”, or “skill issue”. It doesn’t register in thier heads that people lose because of a lack of TEAM WORK and TACTICS.

Yes, it’s only a game, but it’s a war game with war machinery, and YES, war tactics DO work in this game.

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Anything that helps the team …helps the team.

Lets face it ,there is no team. It’s a number of single entities on the map at the same time. No formation,no communication and nothing to do with how tank brigades etc move in reality.
In reality flanking vehicles not only protect the main body of tanks but counter similar flanking vehicles of the enemy.In the game you are lucky sometimes to even have one other vehicle at your spawn point or just a big hoard wandering aimlessly toward the same spot.

On a very rare occasion something like a real formation occurs and it can lead to a game being over very quickly.I have seen this on Stalingrad a couple of times and it may be due to the fact the opposing spawns are set up diagonally opposing each other which means the teams pick up the wide spots naturally by attacking the A and C zone respectively while the main body take the center. Yes those who stay back and camp the zones do help win the game even if its only one per zone.Its a common occurrence to see a light fast vehicles come in behind an advancing line and steal the game because of the spawn zone rush.

A whole team moving as one is every hard to counter but it’s more luck than judgement in this game.Some good players do read the mini map and try to move them selves into spaces not taken ,most just rush to sit in their regular seat to rack up a personal score.

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yeah… I connot dissagree with anything you said. I do wish a lot more could read the mini map properly and use tactics. I don’t ever moan with close games, even if my team loses, because with a close finish, it means BOTH teams gave their best, and that is totally fine with me. I just hate the totall and complete whitewashes that end up with the spawn killing and base raping. That only happens when players refuse to be part of the team and are always on the retreat, sitting back pot shotting as far away from the front line as possible. When they get shot at, they run and hide under the nearest rock. Teams that advance don’t get locked in the spawn area for the simple reason being… they are NOT in the spawn area, they advance, they move out.

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Very playable game. Rush Spawn and camp/sniping from distance. It’s what the game has devolved too.

its what it always was ,its a tank shooter ,you shoot tanks from varying distance

No the campers who sit the entire match playing sniper or rush the spawn. Shoot a few then leave the game. They are useless. I get what the game is. Thanks for the heads up, Einstein.

if you have a unit killing the enemy before they get to CAP then that is valuable you ass hat .That is why we have fast units and 60s tanks in WW2 games.it is the game and Gaijin made it so you can play it that way. If you dont like it play another game.

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Asshat? Wow your basement-dwelling social skills are impressive. I see you one of the types that sit back and shot across the map or bull rush spawn to rack up your kills. GFY punk ass.

It’s game you twat and not a very clever one at that

I am really getting so sick and tired and fed up with the sit back pot shotters. The game is becoming no fun anymore at all. Every single day for months now, 10 out of 12 games are ALWAYS LOSSES. Even today, I have played a lot of matches and only won 2 out of the last 12 games. This happens every single day of the week. The reason for all the losses is exactly the same:- Sit Back Pot Shotters.

They just sit back doing nothing. They get absolutely nowhere near the zones to take, sitting right back, miles behind the frontline. They attack nothing and take no zones what so ever. They are a blight to the team.

What I HAVE noticed without fail - Pot Shotters ALWAYS lose - without fail. 9 times out of ten, the pot shotting team also gets SPAWN KILLED. Pot Shotters always get spawn killed so easy, because they LET the enemy advance so far, simply because they camp not that far from the spawn point in the first place. Come on you Pot Shotters - it’s not rocket science. If you really can’t get your brain around why you pot shotters always lose and get spawn killed, then this is NOT the game for you - stick to The Sims 4, you have no reason to be playing a war game you totally do not understand.

What makes this even more shamefull is all these teams playing like noobs while in Rank 5 tanks. By the time players get to rank 5, they should have played so many games by then that there should be no noobs at all in Rank 5.

People will say they could be new but bought a rank 5 premium. The same thing happens whether I am on the EU servers or the NA servers, it doesn’t matter. Well if that is the case, there must be literally THOUSANDS of new players every day all over the world all buying Premium tanks. IF that is the case, Gaijin are banking hundreds of thousands every single day.

All this game needs to play it, is a modicum of common sense, which in this games player base, seems very rare.

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These posts are always so funny.
If these bad players are so prevalent then why are they “always” on your side.
Where are the 10 wins out of 12 where the enemy were all " Sit Back Pot Shotters"?

The only commonality in all of these “bad” teams is you.

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Screenshot 2025-01-10 110534

Anyone that talks up how good they are (like you) are always the ones the forum posts are talking about. Wow you got 6 kills sitting in one spot, still lost the match.

Better than no kill and lost the match, at least he was making banks for himself in a losing team and making positive gains, where some just making negative for the team and themselves lol

And the entire game is worse as a result

What do you expect tanks with no stabilizer, no armour to speak of (in fact - vulnerable to OP and MG fire from the wrong spots) and a very high velocity, powerful gun to do? Edited addendum: Oh, and bad mobility with often no reverse speed.

Go in and brawl or use the fact their cannon is like a late-WW2 railgun to pick off targets from safety?

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Do you REALLY think that 1 person on a team of 12 - 16 is the cause of all the losses??? If only 1 solitary person causes the team to lose, that means by defenition that the rest of the team is even worse.

This screenshot is the first time I started to observe why the team I was on always loses.

As you can see that is from March LAST year. I have observed over the last year using observation. I haven’t just made it up as just something to post.


The screen shot was was taken in August this year. Was a good day - I won 3 out of 12.


This is the latest updated screen shot from the day before yesterday.

If I posted ALL my evidence I have collected over the last year, it would be just be a wall of screenshots of loss after loss after loss. You could even say that I did it the proper scientific way using evidence and observation. The results all year have proved that sitting back pot shotting is loser gameplay. The teams that win are the teams that actually attack the zones instead of cowering in the spawn point. The teams that win are the ones that attack and push the losers back in to their spawn point.

Come on - it is NOT rocket science.