People unironically don’t get that TO would make everyone happier and match quality might improve in the process as well.
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Again, more directly. Define against in relation to the conversations, as opposed to discussing the questions and statements posed by those asking for a new mode.
Then the actual proof these people (who appear almost non existent, unless you include non-TO advocates who I see no evidence of destroying the current combined mode further) are destroying the current combined mode further?
Yes. Really and your next reply is just as vague.
As said again, people who doesn’t want TO and come to the forum to tell that TO is not needed give justification for Gaijin to not implement it. Instead Gaijin nerfs the air making both sides unhappy.
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Your opinion not actual fact, of course.
Less opinion more actual backing up what you have stated.
You have yet to fully explain your statement other than opinions.
Gaijin decided to include airplanes in ground mode. People playing ground mode as Gaijin designed are not destroying anything…
Dont forget the stats.
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Sorry but this is just how things really work. If there is justification to not add TO (players going to say that it is not needed) it won’t get added. Especially that air vechicles bring a lot of profit (premium ones).
The only real ‘evidence’ to back it up would be a statment from gaijin which we won’t get.
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Lol. Nice try.
Merry Xmas anyway.
So You say that people saying that TO is not needed is not being used as justification to not add it?
Depends what you meant by against TO, since those vehemently opposed to it appear to almost non-existent (relatively).
So yes, hypothetically the almost non-existent population might hold some sway. But since most will be for, or not fussed, or just replying to questions people fail to ask Gaijin, I don’t see any of them justifying Gaijins decision nor creating the scenario of your statement.
So sure, if you mean some super-anti players that don’t really seem to crop up at all then in theory it might give Gaijin a reason. But since that does not tie into what we know of Gaijin’s reason nor there being a high level of anti-TO commenters (most appear to just not agree with other players statements, not convinced by that requirement of a TO) it seems very unlikely there is any impact on Gaijin’s decision.
And most initial replies appear to be against the same topics being duplicated, which is nothing to do with “people being against”, as you put it.
The polls shows that there is a decent number of people against TO (or an no-cas option in game)
I have different point of view.
Something just from top of comments in this topic, You can see in other topics.
That is not that people fail to ask Gaijin a question, the Gaijin just don’t want to answear it. I have myself made a request in recent poll about road-map about TO.
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I mean if ya want it this way, Gaijin better add endless waves of Ai planes squad bombers/dive bombers bombing players too since Air vs Air has Ai ground shooting at players with SPAA. If wave one is defeated or gone, wave 2 comes in Just no one going to fly, but SPAAG will still be present. At least Ai won’t make it as deadly as players do, will purposely miss unless ya drive into it or make Ai just bad at aiming. Will be kinda funny and akward to see it happen. Even boat vs boat, there’s planes. It war thunder, everything mixed since the gecko.
Could ask for a team deathmatch instead where there’s no zones to capture and just tanks. To me, that will make more sense instead of saying “CAS op, only want tank mode cuz planes won’t let me play.” Saying CAS op is just an bad excuse, however saying your bored of this current mode and want a new game mode then Team deathmatch thread is the call. Will be CoD feeling but its much more understandable there. I don’t like it, not a fan of CoD like games, but will make a lot of sense to me doing it this way.
I would prefer if Gaijin brings back the capture 1 zone to move the next zone of the map. Similar to Rush mode from Battlefield. If the enemy pushes back to capture the zone back, it goes back until one reaches the end of the zone. Or something like that, thats just me. Just A/ A,B/ A, B, C has gotten a bit boring.
There is no option for “against TO”. The polls are always lacking in refinement. So you just mean the poor results pulled from various polls, not comments to these multiple topics?
That is all very well but does not change the fact the responses are more “look a repeat” or “no I don’t agree with x,y,z, premise”. As opposed to those against TO, which apparently is about polls (which don’t have “no to TO” options amongst other things) and not comments anyway.
Would have helped if you had just said you meant polls made and their results help justify why Gaijin do not have tank only as part of their vision, and not this “players against TO” vague statement.
This is often forgotten. Wanting what ARB has is opening pandoras box.
The same “option” but not the same reality.
In a poll I have quoted, there is an option
’ No to a No CAS Game Option’
I know that it is not exactly TO, but You should get an understanding of what I mean.
Then we have this poll on old forum:
On which there was an option to vote ‘No’ to ‘Do you want a tank only mode?’ question.
Sorry for misunderstanding. But I also think that comments pay some price in it too.
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We have new posts every day complaining about CAS and the same complaints about it on other forums such as Steam, Quora , Reddit so it is undeniably an issue and people have even stated they have left the game because of it.
It was a big, long running discussion on the old forum as you know.
The only issues I can see is whether it will increase queue times and maybe impact on Gaijins sales of premium planes for CAS.
I opposed CAS on the old forum as a non flyer and supported it on this one as a flyer.
My issue on the old forum was CAS ignorance. I didn’t use it and only got the negative side of it. My Issue now is calls for CAS to be nerfed so yet again the fun is squeezed out of something to appease those who can’t.
The TO mode option was a workaround for all. I can’t see how that is offensive to anybody.
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Yes, conflating these options with “being people against TO” has always been a blind spot for TO advocacy.
Which is where my questioning came from and still stands.
If someone votes for:
“’No to a No CAS Game Option”
It is being understand as he is against such an option, same with TO.
If there is a topic regarding TO and many comments state that it is not needed or it should not be added, Gaijin can use that comments as the way to say “Players don’t want it”.
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