Swedish Navy Tech Tree

sorry for giving you false hopes, got schizoid and genuinely believed there would be swedish navy in the game

Hello.

In the event that a Latin American or Argentine Technology Tree is not implemented, there will be free ships that can be included in this proposal.
General characteristics:

Azopardo-class

Hércules-ship

  • Former River-class; Frigate modified in Argentina.
  • 3xI 105mm/41 Bofors M45 + 2xII 40mm/60cs Bofors M45 + 4xI 40mm/60cs Bofors M45.
  • HÉRCULES frigate (1942/1948).

Heroína-class

Murature-class

República-ship

Bouchard class

All the weapons, both 105mm and 40mm, were specially built for Argentine Navy by the Swedish Bofors.
General characteristics:

105mm/41cs M45

  • HE Anti-aircraft.
  • HE Anti-vessel.
  • 15.7 kg shell.
  • 18 shots per minute.

40mm/60cs M45

  • HE Anti-aircraft.
  • SAP Anti-vessel.
  • 1.0 kg shell.
  • 130 shots per minute.

Regards

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Those were Italian project, just because they were proposed to sweden once that doesn’t theyr place is in this hypotetical tt. They weren’t made for sweden in the specific and they were never ordered by the swedish navy. If they would be ever implemented, theyr place is in the Italian tt.

I will only say yes when the proposed/paper ships are removed.

The U.P. 102 and Ansaldo coastal defence ship designs were indeed both designed by an Italian yard but they were not just proposed to Sweden, they had been ordered by and created in cooperation with the Swedish Navy in 1941. Now the U.P. 102 offered to Sweden was a modified version of a prior Ansaldo design also offered to other countries, but it was still tailor made in this configuration for Sweden with Swedish input. Afaik the U.P. 102 was never intended for the Italian Navy and if it had bee, it would certainly not have been in the configuration proposed for Sweden. The same goes for the coastal defence ship design which to my knowledge was specifically designed for Sweden. The design of the Tre Kronor-class was ultimately also based on work done by the Italian company CRDA but can certainly be considered a Swedish cruiser

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As explained in the section on paper ships, these are only included due to Gaijin’s previous statement on greater openness for paper designs for naval. This suggestion may serve to show the diversity and types of vessels that could potentially be added for Sweden, but it is neither a comprehensive list of every candidate nor a list of ships that necessarily have to be added. When/if added, the Swedish Navy would undoubtedly be introduced in whatever form Gaijin deems suitable irrespective of the particular design of this suggestion

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Those ships were never commisioned and never constructed.

Probably they would have different weapons, and all the project made by Ansaldo of those times were always proposed to Regia Marina.

How so?
Does sweden ever projected it? nope
Does sweden ever commisioned it or operated it? nope

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Well, then for me it’s a yes but also if they are added to the nation that designed them.

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Both the designs proposed to Sweden were still provided under Swedish supervision and advice, that’s especially true of the coastal defence ship which to my knowledge was not based on any prior Ansaldo design. It’s very possible that the RM inspected them, but to my knowledge the U.P. 102 was specifically created as an export cruiser. If it was to be added, I don’t see why Italy would have it for any more reason than Sweden, especially considering that it appears to have been intended to use non-Italian weaponry. I suppose a good compromise could be to provide Italy with the U.P. 102 proposed to Romania and to give Sweden the one intended for Sweden. I think you must have misunderstood me in regards to that last sentence, the Tre Kronor-class which was built in Sweden based on designs by CRDO and spent many years in Swedish service

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Yeah, I don’t mind paper ships.
In fact I support this tree, but I think the U.P. 102 should also go to Italy.
Not necessarily under Romanian flag, given that Ansaldo was nationalized, and basically a branch of the design office of the Navy. As others were saying, either a project was offered to the Regia Marina or the export design was based on a design for the RM.
Like the U.P. 41 which was based on a design for a 42,000 ton ship for the RM.

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Latest battle pass, “Swedish navy emblem”
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It gives me hope but i also don’t trust Gaijin :(

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Pretty much same. Strap it to one of the early Italian destroyers and you can pretend that you have a Psilander-class…

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maybe add some of the swedish subs, there is one event can’t remember the name but a submarien ‘‘drownd’’

Feels too close to the release of the French ships to be coming soon, but one can hope.

First French ships appeared in March 2023 so it’s not too unreasonable if they decide to do one after like a year and a half. Then again, between Italy and France it was three years

I made a list a while back that I posted in the submarine discussion thread. Not planning on including them here though since it’s not an element that we have actually seen implemented in regular battles

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Yeah its that time between which gets me doubtful, but then again Gaijin loves to dunk on France so maybe they’ll hurry it with the Swedish ships, people will surely claim Swedish bias.

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At least we now know there’s a chance, albeit a really really small one

I really think gaijin should stop with all the increasingly modern planes in Warthunder, and just focus on naval for a bit, as they have the ability to completely replace world of warships and dominate the vehicular combat gaming space and just finish off wargaming as lots of their player base has moved here already. This would be the final nail in the coffin for wargaming. P.S gaijin you would make allot of money from ex wargaming players trying to get to top tier naval.

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