Scandinavia is Sweden Norway Denmark and The Nordics is sweden Norway Denmark Finland and Icland
This convo needs to be revived. It doesnt feel right that swedish navy isnt in this game. They had ships in WW2 not many but some cruisers and destroyers.
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Once they drop the coastal update for France there will only be three nations left without navy trees, so it really is just a question of time until they add Sweden if you ask me. For me personally it’s not that important in what order the remaining nations are introduced.
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jättebra +1
I just updated the suggestion with a number of new destroyer variants a few other alterations so it’s by no means dead
The Swedish Navy only included two proper cruisers during WW2 albeit that two more were under construction at the end of the war. The number of destroyers on the other hand was considerable and in some regards world leading after the war. The core of the Swedish Navy was however the seven coastal defence ships around which naval doctrine was built. Given the state of other navies in the baltic during the war, this made up a considerable fleet in being.
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+1, x10000 from me. the swedish navy decoration was enough to make it canon in-game but WE NEED MORE
perhaps next year it could be added?
Added more specifications regarding displacement, propulsion, and precise armour layout for the bluewater ships of rank 2 and up, as well as a more detailed source listing. Also added a new Finnish top tier coastal vessel, the Turunmaa-class gun boat Karjala in a late refit, changing Turunmaa to be the original configuration. Turns out the Turunmaa-class served with three distinct artillery setups:
1 x 120 mm, 2 x 40 mm L/70, 1 x 40 mm L/60 (1969):
1 x 120 mm, 2 x 40 mm L/70, 1 x twin 23 mm Sergei (circa 1979):
1 x 120 mm, 2 x 40 mm L/70, 2 x twin 23 mm Sergei, with a second mast and new 40 mm FCS (circa 1985):
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+1 for me, though I could do without some of the paper vehicles. I can begrudgingly get over those about to be laid down, given the extensive study, but I feel iffy about designs that had not gotten that far. I don’t want the game to have a ton of fake shit like WoWS, a great appeal of the game, at least for me, is that practically all the vehicles ingame existed in some capacity, and while I’m willing to be a bit more lenient with ships, I’m still cautious about giving Gaijin too much wiggle room. Knowing them, they’ll fuck it up.
I would also prefer to see the tree without paper vehicles. The Ansaldo designs are only present to show the most capable cruiser and coastal defence ship designs that were seriously considered if it was felt that Sweden absolutely needed to have something beyond the Sverige and Tre Kronor classes. I’m a bit on the fence about the Kustförsvarsfartyg 1939 design as while it was not laid down, it wasn’t just another paper design but a finished design that was ordered. It just didn’t have time to be laid down before the war started at which point long term shipbuilding programs were paused.
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Too many premiums in my opinion
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A very solid +1 from me. Looks a bit overcrowded in my opinion but a very good tree otherwise!
Found some stuff to support the list (great work, McPuff!). They are quite seaworthy with medium and upper medium ships, but to round things up the Ansaldo design should also be taken into consideration, even though only existing on paper.
Added more specific stats for bluewater rank 1, did a couple fixes, and included an alternate bluewater tree layout with Denmark and Norway under a spoiler
Certainly possible, but I have avoided adding the older coastal defence ships to be more in-line with the level of technology seen in other ships in War Thunder. The cutoff at Dristigheten is due to her being the first coastal defence ship with krupp armour. If the Svea or Oden-classes were to be added, they would have to be implemented with special modifiers to reflect their nickel steel and harvey armor. If they’re added, there are also other potential options like some of the modernised monitors
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